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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!news.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 21:24:46 +0000 From: Joe Gwinn <joegwinn@comcast.net> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Earth-grazing asteroids as a military resource Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2025 16:24:47 -0500 Message-ID: <m4ghsj9fuo9f5pkfagic39kee093ni0d55@4ax.com> References: <vq5mv3$1ii40$1@dont-email.me> <vq80l1$22pl6$2@dont-email.me> <ic2fsjhuqu06vhjsrassubm79n9r62k9jm@4ax.com> <vq8jtq$299g5$1@dont-email.me> <k2om9lxm9k.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 55 X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-Trace: sv3-teZyS031WYRVStVm8nTbWGKMnov4cvXK4huCwBqifrcRHxCCcE3tsoRHBoP9ZIhE4Vxmy+w4R3Kh1sD!3EWmci/G+UU5OPJX5AGHD159Zp435VUnI55hojawOabC0PnAVjSriF+j+HAbCl+rFg== X-Complaints-To: abuse@giganews.com X-DMCA-Notifications: http://www.giganews.com/info/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 3462 On Wed, 5 Mar 2025 21:16:52 +0100, "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >On 2025-03-05 05:28, Bill Sloman wrote: >> On 5/03/2025 10:21 am, john larkin wrote: >>> On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 22:59:44 +0000, TTman <kraken.sankey@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 04/03/2025 02:02, Bill Sloman wrote: >>>>> The latest New Scientist talks about asteroid 2024 YR4 being downgraded >>>>> from a 1 in 32 chance of hitting Earth (the 17th February estimate) >>>>> to a >>>>> one in 25,000 chance on the 24th February. >>>>> >>>>> It's some where between 40 and 90 metres in diameter. Presumably there >>>>> are more smaller asteroids (which will be harder to see). >>>>> >>>>> Eventually some military clown is going to get the idea finding a >>>>> few of >>>>> them and sending up stick-on ion drives, so that the earth-grazing >>>>> orbits can be shifted into earth-impacting orbits. >>>>> >>>>> A couple of them hitting Russian occupied-areas of the Ukraine would >>>>> upset Putin no end. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Excellent suggestion.! Needs some clever maths calcs though... >>> >>> Silly suggestion. You'd have to plan your wars 30 years in advance, >>> and you couldn't sign a peace treaty with the thing a week away from >>> hitting earth. >> >> You wouldn't have just one of them, and the trick would be to have a >> bunch of them in orbits that could easily (and quickly) shifted from >> earth grazing to earth impacting. You might mot be able to shift it back >> into earth grazing in a week, but you could probably get it to hit the >> Pacific ocean rather than your enemy's territory. >> >>> We can launch a nuke in 20 minutes. >> >> And everybody can see where it came from. Junk in the asteroid belt is >> anonymous, and an asteroid hitting the earth will vapourise anything >> that might otherwise have been traceable back to you. > >In The Expanse series of novels, asteroids are used as weapons, and it >took them months. Of course, you need the proper drive (which we don't >have). I'm not sure they calculated the hit place. > >Ok, it is fiction, but calculated fiction. Same core issue, on a smaller scale, "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress". ..<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_Is_a_Harsh_Mistress> Joe