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Subject: Re: ISO: The Eiffel OO programming language and IDE, on VMS
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Le 25/03/2025 à 23:27, Subcommandante XDelta a écrit :
> On 23/03/2025 8:20 pm, gcalliet wrote:
>> Vous savez parler aux français. ("you know how to speak to the French").
>> Starting tomorrow, we'll be discussing it in the VMSgenerations working
>> group.
>>
>> For me, Eiffel is a benchmark. A great understanding of the art of
>> programming. This made Eiffel a pioneer of contract programming, for
>> example. And the oldest book by Bertrand Meyer (the designer of Eiffel)
>> on introductory computer science (in French, well before object-oriented
>> programming, for his company at the time) is one of the best books of
>> its kind I've read.
>>
>> I will do everything I can to follow your excellent suggestion.
>>
>> Gérard Calliet
> 
> Alas, non, mon ami, I am but a probationary member of the Academie
> Franglais, at best.
> 
> I only speak English, well my sincere emulation of such: Emuglish - my
> grammar and punctuation remains decidedly iffy (never got the hand of
> possessive apostrophes) - however I still speak fluent DCL - the joys of
> f$lexical discourse.
> 
> VSI has it's rusted on client (and potential clients - The HP holdouts
> of yore) customers of 30 years standing or more - however, I don't think
> that they have had any new customers, yet, who have decided to bet their
> businesses, or part of the businesses, on adopting the VSI/VMS platform.
> 
> A modern, disciplined, application building, language such as Eiffel,
> and the Eiffel studio, might perhaps encourage such a miracle, as a new
> shop in the VMS ecosystem.
The term important for me is: new shop. Because you agreee by that on 
the great interest of having several different shops.

VMS, for example, is itself a new-shop-OS - if VSI agree about bare 
metal, and if so VMS is still an OS -. In our world new-shop-OS could be 
very cool.

If we have different shops on VMS, we get more chance to make VMS 
attractive. How could we do that? Open Source, Open Source, Open Source 
plus co-investment.

I won't be insulting, I won't pretend you haven't already understood 
that the scalability model we have at our disposal is clustering. :)

Gérard Calliet
> 
> VSI/VMS + Eiffel - it has great merit.