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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: 26 Mar 2025 18:51:39 GMT
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cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue Mar 25 23:15:20 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
>> On 3/25/2025 12:36 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>> On Tue Mar 25 10:36:01 2025 Frank Krygowski  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> First, I don't know that's true. Based on your claims here, I think my
>>>> typical riding speed is faster than yours. I'm sure I couldn't keep up
>>>> with Zen or Mark, but I suspect most of us old guys here would ride at
>>>> similar speeds. I know that on the club rides I attend (I'm typically
>>>> the oldest of the attendees) I usually finish in the front half of the
>>>> group, and often first. Not that they're races. I just enjoy speeding up
>>>> at times.
>>>> 
>>>> Not that it matters. I dispute the implication that faster riders
>>>> naturally crash more. It takes miles of riding to get fast, and people
>>>> with miles of experience tend to be more skillful.
>>>> 
>>>> You may be an exception.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Frank, obviously you do not ride with a Garmin and believe that my
>>> claim of riding an average soeed of 11 mph is slow. 
>> 
>> You're right. I don't use a Garmin. I still use ordinary cyclometers - a 
>> couple Avocets that I've managed to keep running, and a couple Cateyes, 
>> etc. They give me average speed. 11 mph _is_ slow. I don't think I've 
>> ever averaged that slow unless on a recreation ride with my wife, 
>> grandkids or a good friend who is quite slow.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Those meters only sverage moving speed. You are supposed to be an
> engineer and you don't understand the effects of stop lights and a 30-45
> minute pause at a coffee shop on a meter that measures average speed from
> total time from turning the meter on? All I can say is that you're some kind of engineer.
> 

As do Garmin connect and Strava ie doesn’t count the stationary time, aka
waiting at traffic lights or time at the cafe or so on.

Roger Merriman