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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: 27 Mar 2025 10:36:06 GMT Lines: 46 Message-ID: <m4ko0mFaqnkU2@mid.individual.net> References: <B0kEP.112929$Xq5f.111799@fx38.iad> <f9k3ujl9ev5nopn2f329cuesca36o9c7j0@4ax.com> <vrskop$1qlue$1@dont-email.me> <vrt0d6$24h8c$2@dont-email.me> <2fp4uj55n6mfnmn75jk6ocvuuivrkno6em@4ax.com> <vruduc$3fet8$4@dont-email.me> <vruh2i$3i4m5$1@dont-email.me> <t2k5ujpftk2qp2f8jdn4tsa94fsbmu5c5m@4ax.com> <vruk1u$3k0mh$2@dont-email.me> <dtl5ujhl59hpq12lnbovebk80os181ulgo@4ax.com> <3SEEP.1067220$eNx6.591931@fx14.iad> <vrv6jq$37ar$6@dont-email.me> <msZEP.1267338$SZca.68057@fx13.iad> <slq8uj9n9avr6ufnlnnka2gtir8bhc31a6@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net vnxE64mbLvQRuRwmSTslYwscwCVZ7a9URWPFVJAjmxS8Fo3tUI Cancel-Lock: sha1:4RomFUH7HFY9spteyh/HUnTsqp8= sha1:dLhaI2FgCsHML06BMpRMwSzuy2U= sha256:dw3HDvpVgDZm3I99FNinu3uigNRCSfF9apSwIoDTIbM= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Bytes: 2553 Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: > On Wed, 26 Mar 2025 20:29:06 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> On Tue Mar 25 16:18:50 2025 AMuzi wrote: >>> On 3/25/2025 4:02 PM, cyclintom wrote: >>>> On Tue Mar 25 12:25:34 2025 Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>>> >>>>> You could prove that helmets don't always prevent head injuries, but >>>>> not that they don't sometimes do it. Proving a negative is difficult >>>>> task. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> How would you propose that a helmet cause a head injury? You could >>>> argue that the foam helmets are heavy and might increase your chances >>>> of hitting your head but the Wavecel helmets are light. Helmets don't >>>> interfere with vision on a normal road bike. >>> >>> >>> "Not preventing a head injury" is different from "causing >>> ahead injury". >>> >>> You're welcome >> >> >> >> >> The grammar on Catrike's posting appeared so be saying that while >> helmets may prevent some injuries they may cause others. > > No, I did not say helmets may cause injuries. Read it again. > > -- > C'est bon > Soloman > Indeed that argument is fairly weak and ends up being more demographic though with the rise of hire bikes even that is probably dead. It’s an overreach. Roger Merriman