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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test Date: 27 Mar 2025 11:49:09 GMT Lines: 46 Message-ID: <m4ks9lFbfjcU1@mid.individual.net> References: <vrru3v$152e3$3@dont-email.me> <B0kEP.112929$Xq5f.111799@fx38.iad> <f9k3ujl9ev5nopn2f329cuesca36o9c7j0@4ax.com> <vrskop$1qlue$1@dont-email.me> <vrt0d6$24h8c$2@dont-email.me> <m4f68uFpiqsU1@mid.individual.net> <ogu4ujpkvk3ck8tojoh6fkq5tbmkmh1oor@4ax.com> <vru3fn$31kv7$1@dont-email.me> <4s45uj1f7a09kdh5cuau8e2k37snjcm2g5@4ax.com> <vrudkh$3fet8$3@dont-email.me> <vruj8u$3i4m6$3@dont-email.me> <vrvmhi$j8eo$3@dont-email.me> <vs0m66$1h7oe$2@dont-email.me> <vs18m6$21gj2$2@dont-email.me> <vs1kob$26rhh$2@dont-email.me> <vs2e67$35mlr$1@dont-email.me> <vs3c0r$44vf$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net ZlAB+DFh/EDzEu4nnScH1gpurm8eKPbTOnKmkFSloCbcGaVdiu Cancel-Lock: sha1:IvEhZlBsqQjUdMRGUgl1jrCRoes= sha1:NE2Kg4BW78BJYWQHqRbM10C3pFs= sha256:Moo5IjKc6auwIBRcBkQT7pHc6AmPBY+oznOab1jD100= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 3/26/2025 10:46 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >> On 3/26/2025 3:32 PM, Zen Cycle wrote: >>> On 3/26/2025 12:06 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>> >>>> On average, bicycling is safer than walking by all those metrics. You >>>> obviously don't believe that, >>> >>> I don't? My, how kunich-esque of you. >> >> Perhaps you should explicitly state your positions. As it is, you now >> seem to be implying that you do think bicycling is safer than walking. >> Yet you apparently think that bicyclists get great value from special >> protective hats, but pedestrians don't need them. Those two points seem >> inconsistent. >> >> So am I misinterpreting your views? What exactly are your views? > > My view is that helmets work. Wear them if you feel you need to extra > protection. Don't wear them if you don't feel that need. > > I find them useful off road as bush protection if like myself one rides the path less traveled aka overgrown! So I can essentially use my the helmet to push through said bushes! On road which for me largely is commuting, It provides eye protection with the visor from rain/hail and so on. It’s also quite handy as sort of man bag to put one’s keys/gloves etc at cafe stop/shopping etc. I have no expectations of protection from motor traffic nor does population studies seem to suggest that, bike infrastructure seems to do that ie Amsterdam and similar cyclists have much lower rates and so on. But UK isn’t likely to make this a legislation the hurdles to do so are large, so I don’t feel forced or otherwise to use one, after all see plenty of non helmeted cyclists about be they folks on hire bikes or some utility cyclists. It’s such a non issue at least here. Roger Merriman