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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> Newsgroups: news.admin.hierarchies Subject: Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Date: 1 Apr 2025 16:48:18 GMT Lines: 75 Message-ID: <m52jmiFhtthU1@mid.individual.net> References: <m4u2dvFq8dlU1@mid.individual.net> <vsh19u$10j0p$1@news.trigofacile.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net hGaT9U+F+gSpOucZ5UpOQggvl9nV5CQ6BJxAtvZUwvXPMjJVfx Cancel-Lock: sha1:5wh1f60YnYOxUO3iuycF/uvP1hY= sha256:kNNByWt74emKz8uGE+baZESMY5okzBGu0yh2V+Aob9w= User-Agent: PhoNews/3.13.3 (Android/14) In-Reply-To: <vsh19u$10j0p$1@news.trigofacile.com> Bytes: 4764 Dear Julien ÉLIE, Thank you for your thoughtful feedback on our `ai.*` proposal. We greatly value your insights, especially given your experience with Usenet and its international communities. Corrado Roberto and I would like to address your points and explain why we believe `ai.*` can complement—rather than compete with—existing groups, while inviting your support to make this a success. You’re absolutely right that "ai" (Artificial Intelligence) is English-centric and doesn’t align with all languages, like French’s "ia" (intelligence artificielle). This is a fair critique, and we appreciate you raising it. Our choice of `ai.*` stems from its widespread recognition in tech discourse—think "AI" in headlines, conferences, and tools like ChatGPT or Grok—which gives it a universal shorthand appeal, even if imperfect. That said, we don’t see it as a barrier but an opportunity. The `ai.*` hierarchy is designed to be flexible. While we’re starting with `ai.ita.*` for Italian speakers, its top-level structure allows for language-specific adaptations—like `ai.fr.*` for French "ia" discussions or `ai.de.*` for German "KI" (Künstliche Intelligenz). We’d love your input on how to make this naming inclusive from the start—perhaps a parallel `ia.*` alias for French-speaking peers? Our goal isn’t to impose "ai" globally but to create a hub that can evolve with contributions from communities like yours. --- We’re encouraged to hear that `fr.comp.ia` is active with regular messages—a sign that AI discussions have a pulse on Usenet! You’re right to question whether a new hierarchy will gain more traction than established groups like `fr.comp.ia`, `it.*`, or `comp.*`. We share your caution about adoption, which is why we see `ai.*` not as a replacement, but as a catalyst. The reality is that many AI-related groups—like those under `comp.ai.*`—are largely dormant, as another admin noted. `fr.comp.ia` is an exception, but its success seems tied to a specific linguistic community. We believe the broader Usenet ecosystem lacks a modern, unified space for AI that transcends fragmented or outdated hierarchies. `ai.*` offers a fresh, centralized identity—starting with `ai.ita.*` to leverage the active Italian `it.*` community—that can spark interest where older groups haven’t. Rather than diverting energy from existing groups, we aim to amplify them. For instance, we could crosspost between `ai.ita.chatgpt` and `fr.comp.ia` to share ideas across languages, or use `ai.ita.stats` to analyze trends that benefit all AI groups. Why not both? Revive current groups *and* launch `ai.*` as a bold signal that Usenet is adapting to today’s tech landscape. --- We completely agree that enthusiasm is key to reviving Usenet, and we’re channeling ours into `ai.*` because AI is a global phenomenon that deserves a prominent stage here. Posting in `it.*` or `comp.*` is a great start, but a new hierarchy offers visibility and structure that scattered efforts can’t match. It’s a chance to attract new users—drawn by AI’s buzz—who might then explore `fr.*`, `de.*`, or `uk.*`. Julien, your expertise with `fr.comp.ia` makes you a perfect ally. What if we collaborated? Support `ai.*`’s propagation, and we’ll ensure `ai.fr.*` reflects French "ia" conventions, linking it to `fr.comp.ia`. Corrado Roberto is ready to handle peering and PGP-signed controls (his key’s been active since 1998), so the technical lift is minimal. Let’s test `ai.ita.*` as a pilot—if it gains traction, it proves the concept for broader adoption. What do you say? Could we tweak the proposal—maybe adjust naming or scope—to win your backing? We’d be thrilled to have you on board to shape this revival. Looking forward to your thoughts!