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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Bingo3331 <invalid@invalid.com> Newsgroups: news.admin.hierarchies Subject: Re: Proposal for the New Top-Level Hierarchy ai.* - Artificial Intelligence Date: 4 Apr 2025 17:17:09 GMT Lines: 72 Message-ID: <m5aiglFq8d5U1@mid.individual.net> References: <m4u2dvFq8dlU1@mid.individual.net> <vsh19u$10j0p$1@news.trigofacile.com> <m52jmiFhtthU1@mid.individual.net> <vshf4e$10o5u$1@news.trigofacile.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net If2sutFgF/DkIb13+AgqJgG+heNk96QKjh4jp/16Rt9dccfXnj Cancel-Lock: sha1:DZqAGaJTCkAhKtRA5DGgTvVhIi0= sha256:4VKq1oZ9+5aM5g1b85/kEATReIHkj9FKbZDMRULycAM= User-Agent: PhoNews/3.13.3 (Android/14) In-Reply-To: <vshf4e$10o5u$1@news.trigofacile.com> Bytes: 4313 On 01/04/25 21:34, Julien ÉLIE wrote: >Hi Bingo3331, > >May I ask whether you use AI to help to >write your messages? > You asked if I’m using AI to write these messages—fair question! I’ll be honest: I’ve been working with Grok to help draft them. We’re passionate about this project and see AI as a partner to communicate effectively, not a replacement for our voices. I’m excited about this project and thought it’d be fitting to use AI to pitch an AI hierarchy! That said, if it comes off as too polished or impersonal, I can switch to a different style. >I definitely do not recommend parallel hierarchies like ia.* for >French-speaking people nor ki.* for German-speaking people, etc. > Our plan is to stick with `ai.*` as a single, flexible hierarchy. We’ll start with `ai.ita.*` for Italian speakers, keeping "ai" as a recognizable tech shorthand, and any future groups (e.g., for French or German) can fit under `ai.fr.*` or `ai.de.*` with tailored charters. Does that feel like a simpler, more unified way forward to you? > >Usenet lacks visibility in results from search engines, so I wonder why >it wouldn't also be the case for a new ai.* hierarchy. People would >have to find it, and be provided with an easy modern way to read and >post messages. > Your point about Usenet’s lack of visibility in search engines is spot-on—and it’s a big reason we’re pushing `ai.*`. You’re right that a new hierarchy won’t magically appear on Google, which is why we’re pairing it with a promotion strategy. We’re planning: - **Social Media Outreach**: Posts on X, Reddit (e.g., r/artificial), and Italian tech forums to drive traffic, with links to a simple "How to Join ai.ita.*" guide. - **Modern Access**: A PDF tutorial for newbies (Thunderbird setup, server list) and a potential web gateway via Corrado’s server (e.g., a basic NNTP-to-web interface if feasible). - **Crossposting**: Linking `ai.ita.*` to active groups like `it.*` to piggyback on existing visibility. We know Usenet’s old-school charm is also its hurdle. That’s why we’re committed to making `ai.*` discoverable and user-friendly. If it works, it could set a model for other hierarchies. Any suggestions on boosting visibility you’d recommend? > >Thanks for the kind proposal. I am afraid I do not have enough spare >time to properly handle the subject, and >also other priorities. > We totally understand your time constraints and other priorities—thanks for being candid. We’re not asking you to take on extra work; Corrado’s got the technical side covered (server, peering, PGP controls), and I’m handling promotion. What we’d love is your moral support—or at least a neutral stance. If `ai.ita.*` takes off (we’ll track it with `ai.ita.stats`), it could benefit `fr.comp.ia` too, maybe through shared discussions. No pressure, but your blessing as a respected voice could encourage other admins to propagate it. What do you think? Could we tweak anything—promotion, access, or scope—to ease your doubts? We’re all about reviving Usenet together, and your wisdom is invaluable. Looking forward to your thoughts when you have a moment! -- *Posted from PhoNews Pro for Android V.3.13.3 News.individual.net*