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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Past Blast - "Wonder Woman 1984" - Corp Guy Using PET Date: 7 Apr 2025 17:50:51 GMT Lines: 34 Message-ID: <m5ihjrF3rj3U1@mid.individual.net> References: <3LScnf6o-ddHmXD6nZ2dnZfqnPGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <m55g9gF1fe1U1@mid.individual.net> <PrWcnfSsir_Q_3P6nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@giganews.com> <m5834aFe093U2@mid.individual.net> <vLqdnVb4yaZObXP6nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <m58omiFguqjU3@mid.individual.net> <20250404075333.000000fc@gmail.com> <pa2dnTX2hoJwW236nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <m5c5f4F35tlU1@mid.individual.net> <gmmdnfQoUay9dW36nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> <m5dgomF9mvkU2@mid.individual.net> <X0idnaa5DI6SXGz6nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> <slrnvv3hr3.g7g.spamtrap42@one.localnet> <vsvvvc$36pju$8@dont-email.me> <e_ScnXNxu7u8Cm76nZ2dnZfqnPsAAAAA@giganews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net +XvuojekQYXoZ330wNUbSwmH3O+4N6oeKanVAsffD5YVbjEgRq Cancel-Lock: sha1:U+R7VYNIelsTh+6BiskB5eqwGHA= sha256:+DS3/8Eo5EHSo/uH9jBugEiQFkrwIP1yzGj36tr/UTA= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Bytes: 2600 On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 05:13:06 -0400, c186282 wrote: > On 4/7/25 3:47 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On 6 Apr 2025 00:14:27 GMT, Robert Riches wrote: >> >>> I don't have chapter and verse to quote, but back in the day I was >>> told that the original design of the 6502 _WAS_ superior to the 6809, >>> but Motorola sued on a basis of IP theft or similar, and the 6502 was >>> dumbed down by removing registers and/or crippling the indexing modes. >> >> No, that would have been the Motorola 6800. The 6809 came somewhat >> later. >> >> The main rivalry in the 8-bit world was between the 6502 and the Z80. >> 6502 fans liked to tout the fact that their fave CPU had so many >> instructions that would execute in one clock cycle ... until you looked >> closer and discovered that it was restricting itself to 8-bit address >> arithmetic, where the Z80 was supporting full 16-bit addresses. >> >> > Well ... it was what it was. > > And the 65xx clearly WAS very very popular. > > How many Apple's, CBMs, sold ? How many Apples had Z80 envy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-80_SoftCard A friend had an Apple II and when he outgrew BASIC was a little upset to find the Apple wasn't a great platform for learning C.