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From: Joerg <news@analogconsultants.com>
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Subject: Re: Trump's latest lunacy
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2025 16:27:36 -0700
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On 3/24/25 5:46 PM, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
> On 24-03-2025 15:21, john larkin wrote:
>> On Mon, 24 Mar 2025 01:21:24 +0100, Klaus Kragelund
>> <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>

[...]

>>> I hope it gets better soon and this is just a temporary situation.
>>
>> There are about 11 million illegal immigrants in the USA now. Some
>> have found housing - competing with everyone else - and some have not.
>>
>> Illegal drugs don't help. Controlling the border will help both
>> problems.
>>
> Most of the peope I saw that was sleeping on the street was black 
> people, many with obvious mental problems
> 
> One family a collegaue of mine talked to, the husband had a tripple 
> bypass.They had to sell everything they had to pay hospital bills. They 
> were staying at a hotel, with no plan for what to do when the money runs 
> out.


I am living in the US for almost 30 years now. Most of the time 
self-employed so no cadillac-style corporate health plan. It has never 
been a problem to obtain health insurance. It just became more expensive 
when Obamacare started.

A good friend of mine in a similar situation (engineer but not 
corporate) had a serious heart attack while we were on a cycling trip. 
Slim, trim and sporty, I couldn't believe it. I called, the ambulance 
arrived two minutes later, he was transported to a hospital and from 
there to another because the required procedure was a bit complicated. 
His share of the bill was miniscule.

A person with a decent income (engineers et cetera) has enough money to 
pay for health insurance for their family. I personally know some who 
instead chose to buy a sports car or whatever and take a gamble on their 
health. Well, this is America, so you have that choice. Of course, like 
any gamble making a poor choice can backfire spectacularly (and has). I 
can tell a lot of stories about the latter, and none of them were due to 
a supposedly poor health system. It was all about choices.

Someone with lower income receives huge subsidies and enjoys almost 
zero-cost health insurance. They can also file for charity care at the 
hospital which, given the income is truly low, is generally granted.

Poor people are on Medicaid where everything is free.

You won't read that in the usual sensationalist press but that's how 
health care in America really is. Personally I like it better here than 
in Germany where I lived before. Except for the dental insurance which 
is pretty much a joke in the US.

-- 
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/