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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re=3A_DeepSeek_helping_me_to_clarify_Wien-Einstein-Poinca?= =?UTF-8?B?csOpIGNvbnNwaXJhY3ku?= Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2025 08:15:51 +0200 Lines: 38 Message-ID: <m69074FnaapU1@mid.individual.net> References: <60dc21832cce54c95c37087794609710@www.novabbs.com> <093f53931b5bc3fe06c2740929fad4c7@www.novabbs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net 7WWKlqXGn+2JQ6Paed4rpwfyCkmNJVNoVOl2erp7p4qWtJ21oP Cancel-Lock: sha1:LNATPtWusk3T5PJW9lYSHm3wm90= sha256:8SKftwL9gR/I/Q9Lo5U1XGYp1MxBM5bOVbHJ0fBp6yU= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: de-DE, en-US In-Reply-To: <093f53931b5bc3fe06c2740929fad4c7@www.novabbs.com> Am Montag000014, 14.04.2025 um 19:42 schrieb rhertz: .... > > > Poincaré was ahead with relativity construct, even when (as Lorentz) > didn't care about TIME DILATION as a valid physical concept. He > supported Lorentz' LENGTH CONTRACTION IN ITS MODERN FORM, as well as all > the consequences of relativity on Maxwell invariance and impact of > relativity on electron modification of mass with speed of the relative > reference frame. > > All of this was fed to Einstein by Wien and another collaborators (in > French). Einsteins was already fluent in French and Italian. He > discussed Science and Hypothesis with friends of the Olympia in > 1902-1903. There existed a gap between the time Einstein's paper was handed in to 'Annalen der Physik'(june 1905) and it's publication in december 1905. Poincare's paper was published in july, 15, 1905. What if the date of Einstein was a fake? Also a problem for me: Why was Einstein fluent in French (and probably in Italian)????? He was allegedly born in Ulm, Germany and lived in Munich, Germany. So: where did French and Italian come from? My guess: he was actually a Swiss citizen by birth and the German parts of his CV were a fake, too. TH