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From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone
Subject: Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to
 connect to each other & Windows?
Date: 16 Apr 2025 19:43:37 GMT
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On 2025-04-16, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Apr 16, 2025 at 1:54:29 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2025-04-16 07:22, Tyrone wrote:
>>> On Apr 16, 2025 at 2:35:09 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
>>>>> Frank Slootweg and I discussed this years ago and the problem with Android
>>>>> running an SMB server is the ports are 139 (SMB over NetBIOS) and 445 (SMB
>>>>> directly over TCP/IP) both of which are below 1024 and hence impossible on
>>>>> a non-rooted Android. Since 139 is deprecated, let's just talk about 445.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's my understanding non jailbroken iOS has the exact same restrictions.
>>>>> Windows expects SMB to be on port 445.
>>>> 
>>>> As per usual your understanding of iOS is lacking. There is no such
>>>> restriction.
>>>> 
>>>> I use "LAN Drive Samba server" and these are the server settings:
>>>> https://i.postimg.cc/8CK3h4bT/IMG-6999.jpg
>>>> 
>>>> Works just fine.
>>> 
>>> That is one of the apps I looked at yesterday.
>>> 
>>> So I installed it today. The free version works fine, but is sort of slow.  I
>>> was able to start the server on an iPad and create a user account with
>>> read/write access. The folder it creates is a folder in the Files app.
>>> 
>>> BTW the "localhost" in the picture above is just the default name used for the
>>> iPad/iPhone.  I changed that to "ipad1'.
>>> 
>>> I then did a standard "Map Network Drive" in Windows 11. I connected to
>>> \\ipad1\LANDrive". I entered my name and password (that I setup on the iPad
>>> SMB Server).  All very standard Windows networking stuff. So it clearly IS
>>> using port 445.
>>> 
>>> I then transferred a random PDF file from Windows to the iPad. Worked fine.
>>> LAN Drive Samba Server also gives you access to DCIM on the iPad. Yes, you can
>>> copy photos from the iPad to Windows.  Note that the iPad appears as a mapped
>>> drive on Windows. I used drive letter X.
>>> 
>>> I then moved a file in the Files app on the iPad into the LANDrive folder.
>>> On Windows 11, I was able to see and copy this file over to Windows.  Just
>>> like any network drive.
>>> 
>>> The DCIM access appears to be read only. At least, in 30 minutes of testing
>>> this app, I don't see a way to get write access. But you DO have access to it.
>>> 
>>> So, the Apple-hating trolls can lose more sleep. Yet ANOTHER thing that they
>>> were absolutely SURE could not be done (because "iOS is a toy") CAN BE DONE.
>>>   Direct transfers between iOS and Android is possible. You can access the DCIM
>>> folder. You CAN map an iPad/iPhone as a drive letter on Windows, so you can
>>> move files back and forth FROM Windows instead of FROM iOS.  Certainly such
>>> apps are available for Android as well.
>>> 
>>> As I said yesterday, all that is needed is an SMB Server.
>> 
>> Arlen will now come on and claim you're lying, because he "knows" that
>> it can't work.
>> 
>> :-)
>
> No doubt.  More "Imaginary Functionality". When all he has to do is use one of
> his MANY iOS devices and try it. 
>
> Because his track record of things he "knows" about iOS is SO good.  Like the
> classic "Even if only 1 line of code is changed in iOS, Apple rebuilds and
> sends the ENTIRE iOS to everyone. 
>
> Nevermind that some iOS updates are 40MB and some are 5GB. 
>
> Not to mention how many times this topic has shifted. First it was "its
> impossible to send a photo from Windows to iOS without using the internet".  
> That, of course, was an absurd lie. 
> 
> Now we are at "How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to
> connect to each other & Windows?".  Of course this works fine, there are
> several apps to do this. I have also tried FSharing from the App Store.
>
> What he knows about iOS couldn't fill a thimble.

Well I'll have you know badgolferman says Arlen apologized to him for
something in the past, so we should all just forget all of this and treat
Arlen like he /doesn't/ regularly insult Apple users for daring to use a
product he has a personal (and irrational) hatred for. 😉

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