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Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.karotte.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,misc.phone.mobile.iphone Subject: Re: How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to connect to each other & Windows? Date: 16 Apr 2025 19:43:37 GMT Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates Lines: 92 Message-ID: <m6afj9F96mU1@mid.individual.net> References: <vtnhos$1jn3$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> <vtnj2t$1job9$1@dont-email.me> <SnSdneb83KLcIGL6nZ2dnZfqnPidnZ2d@supernews.com> <vtoqsl$2nos8$3@dont-email.me> <BzSdnaVjYMlInZ31nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@supernews.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net j0EQSmJwzG6LHGIGzU1UyAvVhQfCKreNXaviIMDyfOgjhwnleq Cancel-Lock: sha1:kHvu+arvjB7SpWMF33EHirYQNtw= sha256:We3EaasuzdaaTX8TUzvlAE1MJuDub1w2jwOpU7yWyiU= Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Face: _.g>n!a$f3/H3jA]>9pN55*5<`}Tud57>1<n@LQ!aZ7vLO_nWbK~@T'XIS0,oAJcU.qLM dk/j8Udo?O"o9B9Jyx+ez2:B<nx(k3EdHnTvB]'eoVaR495,Rv~/vPa[e^JI+^h5Zk*i`Q;ezqDW< ZFs6kmAJWZjOH\8[$$7jm,Ogw3C_%QM'|H6nygNGhhl+@}n30Nz(^vWo@h>Y%b|b-Y~()~\t,LZ3e up1/bO{=-) User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (Darwin) Bytes: 5658 On 2025-04-16, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote: > On Apr 16, 2025 at 1:54:29 PM EDT, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >> On 2025-04-16 07:22, Tyrone wrote: >>> On Apr 16, 2025 at 2:35:09 AM EDT, "Chris" <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: >>>>> Frank Slootweg and I discussed this years ago and the problem with Android >>>>> running an SMB server is the ports are 139 (SMB over NetBIOS) and 445 (SMB >>>>> directly over TCP/IP) both of which are below 1024 and hence impossible on >>>>> a non-rooted Android. Since 139 is deprecated, let's just talk about 445. >>>>> >>>>> It's my understanding non jailbroken iOS has the exact same restrictions. >>>>> Windows expects SMB to be on port 445. >>>> >>>> As per usual your understanding of iOS is lacking. There is no such >>>> restriction. >>>> >>>> I use "LAN Drive Samba server" and these are the server settings: >>>> https://i.postimg.cc/8CK3h4bT/IMG-6999.jpg >>>> >>>> Works just fine. >>> >>> That is one of the apps I looked at yesterday. >>> >>> So I installed it today. The free version works fine, but is sort of slow. I >>> was able to start the server on an iPad and create a user account with >>> read/write access. The folder it creates is a folder in the Files app. >>> >>> BTW the "localhost" in the picture above is just the default name used for the >>> iPad/iPhone. I changed that to "ipad1'. >>> >>> I then did a standard "Map Network Drive" in Windows 11. I connected to >>> \\ipad1\LANDrive". I entered my name and password (that I setup on the iPad >>> SMB Server). All very standard Windows networking stuff. So it clearly IS >>> using port 445. >>> >>> I then transferred a random PDF file from Windows to the iPad. Worked fine. >>> LAN Drive Samba Server also gives you access to DCIM on the iPad. Yes, you can >>> copy photos from the iPad to Windows. Note that the iPad appears as a mapped >>> drive on Windows. I used drive letter X. >>> >>> I then moved a file in the Files app on the iPad into the LANDrive folder. >>> On Windows 11, I was able to see and copy this file over to Windows. Just >>> like any network drive. >>> >>> The DCIM access appears to be read only. At least, in 30 minutes of testing >>> this app, I don't see a way to get write access. But you DO have access to it. >>> >>> So, the Apple-hating trolls can lose more sleep. Yet ANOTHER thing that they >>> were absolutely SURE could not be done (because "iOS is a toy") CAN BE DONE. >>> Direct transfers between iOS and Android is possible. You can access the DCIM >>> folder. You CAN map an iPad/iPhone as a drive letter on Windows, so you can >>> move files back and forth FROM Windows instead of FROM iOS. Certainly such >>> apps are available for Android as well. >>> >>> As I said yesterday, all that is needed is an SMB Server. >> >> Arlen will now come on and claim you're lying, because he "knows" that >> it can't work. >> >> :-) > > No doubt. More "Imaginary Functionality". When all he has to do is use one of > his MANY iOS devices and try it. > > Because his track record of things he "knows" about iOS is SO good. Like the > classic "Even if only 1 line of code is changed in iOS, Apple rebuilds and > sends the ENTIRE iOS to everyone. > > Nevermind that some iOS updates are 40MB and some are 5GB. > > Not to mention how many times this topic has shifted. First it was "its > impossible to send a photo from Windows to iOS without using the internet". > That, of course, was an absurd lie. > > Now we are at "How do nonroot Android & nonjailbroken iOS run SMB servers to > connect to each other & Windows?". Of course this works fine, there are > several apps to do this. I have also tried FSharing from the App Store. > > What he knows about iOS couldn't fill a thimble. Well I'll have you know badgolferman says Arlen apologized to him for something in the past, so we should all just forget all of this and treat Arlen like he /doesn't/ regularly insult Apple users for daring to use a product he has a personal (and irrational) hatred for. 😉 -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR