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From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
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Subject: Re: Hey Arlen, Read This Reply To Me From Frank...
Date: 17 Apr 2025 21:47:44 GMT
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On 2025-04-17, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
> On Apr 17, 2025 at 5:12:32 PM EDT, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>> On 2025-04-17, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>> On Apr 17, 2025 at 1:57:20 PM EDT, "Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid>
>>> wrote in How Do nonroot Android...:
>>>> Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>>> 
>>>> [About "LAN Drive Samba server" on iOS:]
>>>> 
>>>>> That is one of the apps I looked at yesterday.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I installed it today. The free version works fine, but is sort of slow.  I
>>>>> was able to start the server on an iPad and create a user account with
>>>>> read/write access. The folder it creates is a folder in the Files app.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW the "localhost" in the picture above is just the default name used for the
>>>>> iPad/iPhone.  I changed that to "ipad1'.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I then did a standard "Map Network Drive" in Windows 11. I connected to
>>>>> \\ipad1\LANDrive". I entered my name and password (that I setup on the iPad
>>>>> SMB Server).  All very standard Windows networking stuff. So it clearly IS
>>>>> using port 445.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I then transferred a random PDF file from Windows to the iPad. Worked fine.
>>>>> LAN Drive Samba Server also gives you access to DCIM on the iPad. Yes, you can
>>>>> copy photos from the iPad to Windows.  Note that the iPad appears as a mapped
>>>>> drive on Windows. I used drive letter X.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I then moved a file in the Files app on the iPad into the LANDrive folder.
>>>>> On Windows 11, I was able to see and copy this file over to Windows.  Just
>>>>> like any network drive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The DCIM access appears to be read only. At least, in 30 minutes of testing
>>>>> this app, I don't see a way to get write access. But you DO have access to it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, the Apple-hating trolls can lose more sleep. Yet ANOTHER thing that they
>>>>> were absolutely SURE could not be done (because "iOS is a toy") CAN BE DONE.
>>>>>  Direct transfers between iOS and Android is possible. You can access the DCIM
>>>>> folder. You CAN map an iPad/iPhone as a drive letter on Windows, so you can
>>>>> move files back and forth FROM Windows instead of FROM iOS.  Certainly such
>>>>> apps are available for Android as well.
>>>> 
>>>>   No, such apps (SMB servers which can use port 445) are *not* available
>>>> on Android!
>>>> 
>>>>   That's why 'Arlen' can't handle your facts, because in this case, iOS
>>>> can do something which (non-rooted) Android can not.
>>>> 
>>>>   Android servers (of any type) can not use ports below 1024.
>>>> 
>>>>> As I said yesterday, all that is needed is an SMB Server.
>>>> 
>>>>   Which also closes another open question (control a Windows<->iOS copy
>>>> *from* Windows).
>>>> 
>>>>   What was the thing with birds and a stone again!? :-)
>>> 
>>> Arlen, are you going to FINALLY admit that you are wrong? The limitation of
>>> Server ports below 1024 is an Android limitation.  NOT iOS.  Get it now?
>>> 
>>> LAN Drive SMB Server does - in fact - use port 445. Just like we have been
>>> telling you.  If you actually had a single iOS device, you could have tested
>>> it yourself.
>>> 
>>> But I suspect you will keep on digging that hole, because you are halfway to
>>> China already.  So why stop now.
>> 
>> Or he'll just slink away for a while hoping everyone will forget about
>> this, only to return with a new unrelated troll. 😉
>
> Still, it is nice to have beaten him into submission.  If only for a day. 
> Because everyone reading this knows who was right and who IS the troll. 

badgolferman would like a word...

> Prediction: his next fallback position will be "This server port restriction
> obviously changed very recently. Because it never worked before".  Nevermind
> that the app we are using is at least 6 years old.

🤣👍🏼

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