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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Helmet efficacy test
Date: 19 Apr 2025 14:17:02 GMT
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 20:03:43 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 07:12:21 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 17:56:27 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 04:28:32 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Apr 2025 23:02:10 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/18/2025 8:12 PM, John B. wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hmm "Free speech scares some people"? I don't know about "scares" but
>>>>>>> Frankie's free speech calling you a coward certainly set you off.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh, it happened before that! Our timid tricycle rider entered his 
>>>>>> permanent snit before I ever used the word "coward."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He was highly offended when I suggested he lacked the courage or 
>>>>>> competence to ride normal roads, and that his back-and-forth path riding 
>>>>>> might be OK for him, but too boring for me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Remember, my statement was in response to a guy who said there was no 
>>>>>> way riding near cars could be safe; and who can't even summon the nerve 
>>>>>> to ride an empty suburban bike trail without having deadly weaponry 
>>>>>> immediately at hand, chambered and ready to fire.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not seeing any evidence of courage there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> <LOL> As if a wussie like you would know what courage is all about. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Actually, what pissed me off was before that when Krygowski bragged by
>>>>> posting a list of ineffective thing's that I was supposed to believe
>>>>> he'd done and demanded that I list, in detail, all of my bicycling
>>>>> experiences...
>>>>> 
>>>>> "How much recreational riding have you done on roads? How many years
>>>>> commuting to work by bike on normal roads? How much other utility
>>>>> riding have you done on ordinary roads? How much overnight or longer
>>>>> traveling have you done on normal roads? How much bike camping? How
>>>>> many U.S. states have you ridden in? How many foreign countries? How
>>>>> many century rides have you done? How many rides longer than 100 miles
>>>>> in one day? How many times have you organized and led friends on road
>>>>> rides? How many times have you organized and run multi-hundred rider
>>>>> event rides on normal roads?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Answer in detail, please. That will allow us to gauge whether your
>>>>> courage and experience really are more than mine."
>>>>> - Frank Krygowski 
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rec.bicycles.tech/c/mmxzneaxsdE/m/qVoI4KQlAQAJ
>>>>> 
>>>>> That posting told me exactly what kind of a person he was. He was
>>>>> going to show the new guy that he was to be respected or else. I
>>>>> called his bluff and now he hides from me knowing that whatever he
>>>>> posts about me results in more humiliation from me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> He actually thought that riding on a group bicycle ride was an
>>>>> accompishment.
>>>> 
>>>> His claims to fame are rather Self-Grandizing. 
>>>> For example.  "How many foreign countries?" I've ridden a number of
>>>> countries outside the U.S.(one a war zone) and I can assure you that
>>>> other then which side of the road to ride in I saw essentially no
>>>> difference.
>>>> 
>>>> As for his other claims to fame... while he obviously feels proud, it
>>>> appears from his writing that it is much a matter of "self
>>>> gratification" and even yet more proof of his Narcissistic personality
>>>> as those that suffer from this mental disorder have an unreasonably
>>>> high sense of their own importance. They need and seek attention and
>>>> want people to admire them. 
>>> 
>>> Indeed. His sentence below tells me everything I ever needed to know
>>> all about him.
>>> 
>>> "That will allow *us* to gauge whether your courage and experience
>>> really are more than mine."
>>> 
>>> *Emphasis* is mine.
>> 
>> Both are variables and depend largely on the circumstances.
>> 
>> I've written about the little 7 or 8 years old girl I sometime riding
>> down a toad near my house. Alert, watches out for other traffic,
>> reasonable speed. Quite obviously experienced riding on her small
>> country road, although unlikely to be as safe on a major highway.
>> 
>> But of course she wasn't riding on a major highway.
> 
> I wouldn't be able to hear my music if I rode on a major highway. It's
> bad enough riding next to one.
> 
Very much speed dependent! And even what are relative small changes seems
to make a difference ie the 20mph to 30mph areas of london for example you
absolutely can hear the difference!

That and Electric buses!

And busy multi lane roads can become much more pleasant places, clearly
very much location dependent, and all that.

> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman
> 
Roger Merriman