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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Date: 20 Apr 2025 05:02:42 GMT Lines: 46 Message-ID: <m6jdfiFe1h3U2@mid.individual.net> References: <slrn1001hsm.npd.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <68015962$0$417$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <SGeMP.2094336$eNx6.2015934@fx14.iad> <slrn10032gc.1gth.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <370667803.766636299.315435.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org> <m6e8jbFilqmU1@mid.individual.net> <51b70kt9e59919l9k4j90n9o4cgisg1vnc@4ax.com> <363006266.766802581.768586.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net KzOQkQwKBmyvTdyXZENJHw+Orph1/tu0YbHfElG3RRh/Zd3i4L Cancel-Lock: sha1:UvACyrNqeda5KWJnIKEBtj9eO8Y= sha256:LZbNxldrimuL/muUHE+to3YPwgx0hNEZPnJ5Ee3XrlU= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Bytes: 2830 On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:54:55 -0500, -hh wrote: > chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> rbowman wrote: >> >>> -hh wrote: >>>> >>>> First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. >>>> This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a >>>> normal or bad flu season/year. >> >> Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and >> nearly all of them where very old and sick already. > > I’ll check on if it was a prediction, or just the topical estimate of > worst case. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-research-f- idUSKBN21415L/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8294439/ROSS-CLARK-Neil- Fergusons-lockdown-predictions-dodgy.html In the best Mail tradition it leads with a paragraph about Ferguson violating the lockdown for a booty call from a married woman but then documents Ferguson's prior claims that the sky was falling. His model was very popular at the start of the fiasco. A popular Monday morning quarterback ploy when you've fucked the dog royally is 'Oh no, that wasn't a prediction, it was a worse case scenario.' You might want to look up stories about Marion Correctional Institution in Ohio. https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/investigations/new-york-times-ohios- marion-correctional-institution-is-nations-largest-source-of-covid-19- infections/95-33650055-04f2-424d-82ae-9b91b2244236 Between prisoners and staff over 2000 people tested positive for covid most of whom were asymptomatic. Even at the time it was hard to find follow-up stories after the 'everybody is going to die!' headlines but iirc there were under a dozen deaths.