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From: vallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
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Subject: Re: Fedora proposing to remove X11 Gnome
Date: 24 Apr 2025 21:48:23 GMT
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On 24 Apr 2025 21:45:39 GMT, vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote in
<m6vpo3Fd6pcU2@mid.individual.net>:

> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 14:04:44 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <DR-dndcAYLDsOpf1nZ2dnZfqnPYAAAAA@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2025 13:31:51 -0000 (UTC), Borax Man
>>> <rotflol2@hotmail.com>
>>> wrote in <slrn100kfa7.edd.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh>:
>>> 
>>>> On 2025-04-24, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-04-23, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
>>>>> <https://www.phoronix.com/news/F43-Change-Wayland-Only-GNOME>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By GNOME 50 next year upstream could completely remove its X11
>>>>>> session support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fortunately I can choose something NOT Fedora. If they go through
>>>>> with this,
>>>>> adios Fedora on the laptop I never use.
>>>>>
>>>>> Non-problem solved.
>>>>>
>>>> This was one of the reasons I left Fedora and went to Debian.  I had
>>>> been tired of the frequent release cycle, and some of the politics,
>>>> but the fact they would be earlier than other distros in deprecating
>>>> X11 pushed me to Debian.  Nothing against Wayland per-se, but it
>>>> breaks some X applications, and my Window Manager.
>>>>
>>>> The "developers" today are terrible, constantly breaking everything
>>>> all the time.  How they feel it is acceptable to constantly break
>>>> peoples workflows is beyond me.  Sheer arrogance.
>>> 
>>> I stopped using Fedora when they were removing code from openssl for
>>> which they claimed they weren't sure about a patent incumberance.
>>> 
>>> It wasn't just flags in the SRPM that disabled elliptical-curve
>>> crypto,
>>> they actually took the code for ECC out of openssl.
>>> 
>>> I jumped ship to Linux Mint, and I'm much happier for it.
>>> 
>> why
> 
> Because when I realized Red Hat was telling the Fedora maintainers to
> remove code from openssl, that Fedora wasn't the kind of distro I wanted
> to run.
> 
> I was also tired of using rpmfusion to supplement what was missing from
> Fedora -- little things, like being able to play mp3's.
> 
> The closest I've gotten to Fedora since then was to boot a live version
> of Nobara, which was disastrous.  Linux Mint "just works".

Correction:  I still have an old server running Fedora.  But I'm planning
to decommission it, and I already have the new hardware for it, a
newer SuperMicro SuperServer.

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