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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
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Subject: Re: silca and Tariffs
Date: 26 Apr 2025 21:11:11 GMT
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AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> On 4/26/2025 3:06 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>> On 4/26/2025 12:41 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>> On 26 Apr 2025 09:14:12 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> <https://youtu.be/VKz5J5PPt-Q?si=ntPrbZPhCguTIuQM>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Josh of Silca does a good job of explaining how the tariffs are effecting
>>>>> US companies certainly small ones, as ever it’s a moving target so may well
>>>>> change.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>> 
>>>> Many countries have tariffs on products from the USA. I see no reason
>>>> why the USA shouldn't have tariffs on their products. Maybe it will
>>>> bring manufacturing back, maybe not. The USA used to be a
>>>> manufacturing powerhouse and the bureaucratic jackasses let it slip
>>>> away. I don't know if Trump's plans can save the country, but it was
>>>> definatly going to hell with the same old, same old plans. At least
>>>> he's trying something new.
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> C'est bon
>>>> Soloman
>>> 
>>> I am in complete agreement on the importance and benefit of
>>> removing disparate tariffs.
>>> 
>>> I can't agree that it will make a significant difference in
>>> industrial production. With our Byzantine regulations, bans,
>>> permits, reviews and so on, plus unions, and a combination
>>> of apathy and lack of skills in younger generations ('don't
>>> know. don't care') there's no obvious path to refining our
>>> huge stores of rare earths, making steel from our excellent
>>> iron ore and coking coal, building ships once more or a
>>> gazillion other lost industrial projects.
>> 
>> Europe seems to have kept a bit more of its industrial base, and plenty of
>> regulations and unions, French in particular do like a good strike!
>> 
>> Europe and Us have lost a most of their industrial capacity, for largely
>> cost reasons, though some industries remain such as military.
>>> 
>>> Reciprocal tariffs are good, and moral, but the effect will
>>> be about the same as increasing the oceans' volume by
>>> pissing in them.
>>> 
>> This isn’t reciprocal but a trade war with China, which is a PR wonder for
>> the Chinese government as they can blame you now, ie the US for any
>> problems.
>> 
>> Roger Merriman
>> 
> 
> There are many factors, domestic and foreign.  The results 
> have become critical:
> 
> https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/uk-steel-decades-of-decline/
> 

Uk privatised services companies be that steel or otherwise are deeply
unpopular and the general desire for nationalisation is there.

Governments have let the free markets be rather too free for various
reasons some ideological some political short term gains.

But it’s deeply unpopular now, last government essentially asset stripped
the country!

Roger Merriman