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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
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Subject: Re: silca and Tariffs
Date: 27 Apr 2025 16:16:45 GMT
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AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> On 4/26/2025 4:11 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>> On 4/26/2025 3:06 PM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>> On 4/26/2025 12:41 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>> On 26 Apr 2025 09:14:12 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/VKz5J5PPt-Q?si=ntPrbZPhCguTIuQM>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Josh of Silca does a good job of explaining how the tariffs are effecting
>>>>>>> US companies certainly small ones, as ever it’s a moving target so may well
>>>>>>> change.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Many countries have tariffs on products from the USA. I see no reason
>>>>>> why the USA shouldn't have tariffs on their products. Maybe it will
>>>>>> bring manufacturing back, maybe not. The USA used to be a
>>>>>> manufacturing powerhouse and the bureaucratic jackasses let it slip
>>>>>> away. I don't know if Trump's plans can save the country, but it was
>>>>>> definatly going to hell with the same old, same old plans. At least
>>>>>> he's trying something new.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> C'est bon
>>>>>> Soloman
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am in complete agreement on the importance and benefit of
>>>>> removing disparate tariffs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I can't agree that it will make a significant difference in
>>>>> industrial production. With our Byzantine regulations, bans,
>>>>> permits, reviews and so on, plus unions, and a combination
>>>>> of apathy and lack of skills in younger generations ('don't
>>>>> know. don't care') there's no obvious path to refining our
>>>>> huge stores of rare earths, making steel from our excellent
>>>>> iron ore and coking coal, building ships once more or a
>>>>> gazillion other lost industrial projects.
>>>> 
>>>> Europe seems to have kept a bit more of its industrial base, and plenty of
>>>> regulations and unions, French in particular do like a good strike!
>>>> 
>>>> Europe and Us have lost a most of their industrial capacity, for largely
>>>> cost reasons, though some industries remain such as military.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Reciprocal tariffs are good, and moral, but the effect will
>>>>> be about the same as increasing the oceans' volume by
>>>>> pissing in them.
>>>>> 
>>>> This isn’t reciprocal but a trade war with China, which is a PR wonder for
>>>> the Chinese government as they can blame you now, ie the US for any
>>>> problems.
>>>> 
>>>> Roger Merriman
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> There are many factors, domestic and foreign.  The results
>>> have become critical:
>>> 
>>> https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/uk-steel-decades-of-decline/
>>> 
>> 
>> Uk privatised services companies be that steel or otherwise are deeply
>> unpopular and the general desire for nationalisation is there.
>> 
>> Governments have let the free markets be rather too free for various
>> reasons some ideological some political short term gains.
>> 
>> But it’s deeply unpopular now, last government essentially asset stripped
>> the country!
>> 
>> Roger Merriman
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> A state owned/managed steel maker?  Check the history of that.
> 

In name only was bought out few years back and is privately and non uk
owned i forget who but clearly shouldn’t have been left to the only one,
for all sorts of good national interests.

Roger Merriman