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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Date: 28 Apr 2025 03:25:33 GMT Lines: 18 Message-ID: <m78apdFoo9gU3@mid.individual.net> References: <slrn1001hsm.npd.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <1razqu6.1q9thdr2dg4vtN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <slrn1005e75.2s2m.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <1rb0aba.18a8w6z12c0zskN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <slrn1005ftj.2s2m.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <hEWdnZA975g6XJ_1nZ2dnZfqnPqdnZ2d@giganews.com> <0cMMP.704185$SVG3.567961@fx42.iad> <1rb1ipg.3w2n301vs09ntN%snipeco.2@gmail.com> <slrn100bj1q.aal.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <_hqNP.444264$j2D.243272@fx09.iad> <slrn100dfh0.1dpp.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <yWBNP.143761$3te7.134045@fx03.iad> <slrn100ecd2.26ql.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <zhMNP.1805011$BrX.830162@fx12.iad> <slrn100gtmn.3s3p.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <Lf5OP.850261$d51.684371@fx46.iad> <slrn100kdb5.ds7.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <pKqOP.851749$d51.429139@fx46.iad> <slrn100louv.15it.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <WDBOP.3012170$TBhc.759061@fx16.iad> <slrn100ohir.81kf.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <sD3PP.3025891$TBhc.786789@fx16.iad> <slrn100rinf.bh86.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> <MPuPP.2635137$eNx6.430667@fx14.iad> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net n0hKsR2dTn+hbHZVa/CsuAsq16MQXv283aELA+GO+u9KJIg7fF Cancel-Lock: sha1:iKTkxWqMAQdvf5LG78xpPvt41P0= sha256:tk6c204SuMa0dzDQ50BM+zT1GmVBB3vv5iZ9aKRoRVo= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) Bytes: 2630 On Sun, 27 Apr 2025 14:37:32 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote: > The Gazans have a reason to hate Jews, but they would have hated them > regardless of whether anything had been done to them. Heck, the entire > religion advocates for a hatred of both Christians and Jews, the latter > of which was on the pretense that they had persecuted Muhammad. It wasn't a bed of roses but arguably the Jews did better under the Moslems in al-Andalus than in Christian Europe during the same period. Earlier the Visigoths had no use for Jews and after the Reconquista maranos were treated with suspicion and in 1492 Columbus and practicing Jews left. (separate events although some claim Columbus had a Jew onboard) Spain was more or less Judenrein until 1968 after Vatican II published 'Nostra aetate' saying Jews weren't really Christ-killers. Likewise the Ottoman Empire had its up and downs but many Jews relocated there from Christian controlled areas.