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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
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Subject: Re: Disc's without power
Date: 2 May 2025 04:39:00 GMT
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cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Thu May 1 15:20:05 2025 Roger Merriman  wrote:
>> 
>> I?m slightly surprised he admitted he was taking it to the shop! I
>> personally go for the how often am I likely to use said tools, can I
>> reasonably do it? My ability to fix stuff is rather limited now as the
>> brain doesn?t work the way it used to.
>> 
>> And the bike shop is a 5 min walk away and being a shop that does repairs
>> as their focus, it?s hardly expensive.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Do you own a disc brake bike? The full set of tools for working on them
> from Park Tool is pretty damn expensive.
> 
I do and have done for decades MTBer remember we’ve used disks for quite a
bit longer than roadies.

> https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Brake-Mount-Facing/dp/B014LC7546/ref=asc_df_B014LC7546?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=79852149837928&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583451676423827&psc=1
> 
> That is only half the tools that they sell for disc brakes.
> 
> So you think that because I have ONE flat mount disc brake bike that I am
> going to spend over $400 for surfacing tools?

In unsurprising news I agree with Andrew that disk brakes are air in the
system or contaminated pads, mostly they just work for years.
> 
> And my rim brake DeRosa Aluminum main triangle and the Disc Brake DeRosa
> Idol full carbon are exactly the same weight. So why would I even want to
> have a dic brake bike except as a test to see if flat surface mount disc
> bike is any better than the older offset disc brakes? The Merak has
> carbon wheels and stops a LOT better than the disc. The extra weight of
> the discs and the constant maintenance show me that they are only for
> pros and you might notice that manufacturers suddenly are building rim
> brake bikes again. Do you suppose that there may be a reason for that?
> 
> Also, carbon fiber bikes were used BECAUSE they are light and not because
> they ride well. Tom Ritchey was interviewed and said that even 1 1/8th
> steering tubes screws up the comfort of a bike.
> 
> Apparently I filed to be a tester for the Beta software so MY software is
> different than the stop software with some sort of error in the Average
> Speed calculation. I know the Beta software is correct because I timed it on a watch.

Beta software appears is also for the 830 not being updated as well the 830
is a generation behind likely to be two this year ish as the 850 is due.

But either way beta or not, had updates in years.
> 
> I am a real EE unlike Flunky so stop pretending that Flunky saying
> something means anything at all
> 
Going back to other claims doesn’t strengthen your argument!

Roger Merriman