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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: Disc's without power
Date: 4 May 2025 18:47:41 GMT
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zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/4/2025 6:29 AM, Roger Merriman wrote:
>> zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 5/3/2025 5:46 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>> On Fri May 2 14:32:30 2025 Zen Cycle  wrote:
>>>>> On 5/2/2025 12:05 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu May 1 18:30:30 2025 Zen Cycle  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> lol...first off, dumbass, when you join a beta test program it doesn't
>>>>>>> make you a test engineer, it makes you a guinea pig.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Secondly, Even Betaware has version update topology.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> third, you "apparently" joined the beta program? You don't remember
>>>>>>> doing it? Then you complain loudly in here that you were getting updates
>>>>>>> with no change in the displayed version?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Fucking half-wit.>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm surprised that you didn't tell us how you're so important to your
>>>>>> company thst they couldn't care less what you do with your time.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why would I?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Perhaps you'd like to quote where I said that I was a "test engineer"?
>>>>>> I said I was a beta tester which is something completely different,
>>>>>> not that you would know.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You wrote "What it DOES show is that I am a beta software tester so I
>>>>> have the BETA software as a test engineer"
>>>>> 
>>>>> You also selectively and dishonestly snipped that from your response,
>>>>> you lying piece of shit.>
>>>>>> You, like Liebermann, are just another zero in a world of useful people.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If they had a Beta designation why would my software have the standard version number?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Release topologies vary from company to company. Beta releases may or
>>>>> may not have a special designation. If you were a real engineer you
>>>>> would know this.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> All that means is the programmers never thought to append an {A} onto the version.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, because a company like Garmin is so lax in their PLM processes
>>>>> that they don't check to see if the engineers are properly tracking
>>>>> software versions - gawd you're fucking braindead.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When you act like a clown, expect to be treated like one.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Right back atcha, skippy.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I do know this,
>>> 
>>> No, you don't. Maybe in your lame excuse for a career someone told you
>>> that a test engineer is an end-user in a beta program, but that carries
>>> about as much truth as PWM being used to test cables.
>>> 
>>>> so why are you claiming that Garmin isn't using beta testers as free test engineers?
>>> 
>>> Because they aren't. A beta user is _not_ a test engineer. Beta users
>>> provide feedback to the development team, they don't perform root cause
>>> failure analysis, or debug functions, or fault injection testing.
>>> 
>>>> Why do you come out with these idiotic word salads like Kamala Harris?
>>> 
>>> You man like when you wrote "What it DOES show is that I am a beta
>>> software tester so I have the BETA software as a test engineer" then
>>> wrote you ne ver claimed you were a test engineer?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What is "Release topologies vary from company to company. Beta releases
>>>> may or may not have a special designation." supposed to mean?
>>> 
>>> Exactly what is says.
>>> 
>>>> A beta release is ALWAYS supposed to have a special designation! Garmin
>>>> made a mistake. And you can't even guess why.
>>> 
>>> It may not have a noticeable designation to the end-user, IOW it might
>>> not have the characters 'beta' in the topology. Garmin didn't make a
>>> mistake. You're simply being a clueless asshole, as usual.
>>> 
>>>> Poor little Flunky is so lost.
>>> 
>>> Like a guy who thinks being in a beta program for a consumer product
>>> makes him a test engineer?
>>> 
>> 
>> To the best of my knowledge the beta software for the edge 830 also hasn’t
>> had an update in years not unsurprisingly as it’s now a generation behind
>> and isn’t sold anymore.
> 
> It's hard to say what Garmins policy is on obsolete products. I wouldn't 
> be surprised if they ceased sustaining tasks of the 830, but I know in 
> some industries (such as mine) we provided sustaining engineering for 
> many years after the product is taken off the market. However, the fact 
> that it is no longer sold makes the idea that they would still have a 
> beta program for it highly unlikely.
> 
>> 
>> Roger Merriman
>> 
> 
> 
I have a 830 and it gets Map updates still if only once a year or so, and
date changes updates. But no system updates, the beta is maybe a month
younger than the stable version.

It’s getting a bit laggy now so probably will update to the 850 as and when
it’s released assuming it’s has the better screen tech of the 1050 but same
form factor as the 830.

Roger Merriman