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Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: silca and Tariffs Date: 8 May 2025 20:35:51 GMT Lines: 156 Message-ID: <m84it7FanstU1@mid.individual.net> References: <vvfhou$vo5n$2@dont-email.me> <vvfrlb$12p5k$1@dont-email.me> <vvfupp$13kjh$1@dont-email.me> <ja3n1khunk29q1ckh84o208gd986fq0s0e@4ax.com> <tk9n1kpnec72arslfsh2kg5tbvv90fcjrj@4ax.com> <qhbn1k5temi7rprqcf7e2dkei07uc8dvav@4ax.com> <vvhr3h$1ku13$1@dont-email.me> <vvi8up$1ppge$2@dont-email.me> <m83pp7F6s0pU1@mid.individual.net> <vvikm4$1o7p0$4@dont-email.me> <vvop1ktn5pqqjf4en85c7m5ijpntfs07lh@4ax.com> <vvipdr$1vjsf$4@dont-email.me> <m848geF94t1U1@mid.individual.net> <70sp1k5cbnm1ac0n4pkah0pr4jvvds6k3d@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net vJ3YPoKXwhjAiSJiPYxJbw8l5q/tJMG8LU4/B3O/Pagj6IO8G3 Cancel-Lock: sha1:eRiqfSx4fMq9w4iaMDxy1Yn7o5E= sha1:VraVc975zP73h3Xlhgx1jzUgwEQ= sha256:y94Ycrf9tfMl7anWuhXKH1ZLvS38kRox8zZr6m9cdtU= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Bytes: 7179 Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: > On 8 May 2025 17:38:22 GMT, Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> wrote: > >> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>> On 5/8/2025 12:07 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote: >>>> On Thu, 8 May 2025 12:04:20 -0400, Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5/8/2025 9:27 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>>>>> AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>> On 5/8/2025 3:47 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote: >>>>>>>> Am 07.05.2025 um 21:09 schrieb Catrike Ryder: >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 07 May 2025 15:36:55 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 07 May 2025 12:43:45 -0400, Catrike Ryder >>>>>>>>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 7 May 2025 10:38:32 -0500, AMuzi >>>>>>>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/7/2025 9:44 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/7/2025 7:56 AM, Zen Cycle wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/26/2025 5:14 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://youtu.be/VKz5J5PPt-Q?si=ntPrbZPhCguTIuQM> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Josh of Silca does a good job of explaining how the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tariffs are effecting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US companies certainly small ones, as ever its a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> target so may well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> change. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roger Merriman >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jared Fisher is the CEO of Escape Adventures, a company >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with several bike shops in Nevada that specializes in E- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bike sales and rentals. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In this article he discusses his take on the tariffs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/smallbusiness/i-m-a- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> republican-ceo-i-m- adding-a-tariff-tax-to-my-price- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tags- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> so-customers-know-why-prices-are- rising/ar-AA1EjCTR >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tagging the tariff surcharge seems like a smart business >>>>>>>>>>>>> move. It should reduce whining about profiteering, and >>>>>>>>>>>>> help >>>>>>>>>>>>> put the blame where it belongs. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I agree. And let's continue that thought: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://hellocigarettes.com/2023/11/08/cigarette- >>>>>>>>>>>> prices-and-taxes-by-state/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/gasoline/factors- >>>>>>>>>>>> affecting-gasoline-prices.php >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There is a possibility that the foriegn seller might >>>>>>>>>>> have lowered the >>>>>>>>>>> price to absorb some of the tariff. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Almost impossible. Profit margins are very small, >>>>>>>>>> and usually >>>>>>>>>> come from the number of items sold. Massive numbers = >>>>>>>>>> reasonable >>>>>>>>>> profit. >>>>>>>>>> I very much doubt the Chinese will pay the taxes. >>>>>>>>>> They might >>>>>>>>>> INCREASE prices to compensate for less items sold. But >>>>>>>>>> the US is not a >>>>>>>>>> big market if you look at the Global scene, so the >>>>>>>>>> increase will be >>>>>>>>>> slight. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> PS The American consumer will pay 100% of Trump's >>>>>>>>>> taxes. I >>>>>>>>>> mean tariffs. Aff ... same thing. >>>>>>>>>> []'s >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Might be true, but it might be necessary as a way to get >>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>> countries to bargan with their tariffs. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For some reason, the EU offer of "zero tariffs on all >>>>>>>> manufacutred goods" has not led to further negotiation >>>>>>>> rounds yet. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We can hope, unlikely though it may be. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I believe is some US/UK deal though probably mainly on cars which has been >>>>>> waiting post Brexit for some sort of deal, ie its not new just not been on >>>>>> either countries priorities, over last few years. >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe something regarding creative industries UK does a fair bit with films >>>>>> and so on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Agriculture the use of Hormones and similar products in meat products isnt >>>>>> something that UK or other countries are likely to lower their standards >>>>>> for. >>>>>> >>>>>> Roger Merriman >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/concept-of-a-plan-trump-hypes-major-trade-deal-with-uk-experts-say-it-s-not/ar-AA1Epxd0? >>>> >>>> The stock market seems to have approved of it even if MSN and some >>>> unnamed UK officials don't. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> C'est bon >>>> Soloman >>> >>> Today, you're right. >>> >>> This movie has a lot of run time left and both could change- >>> in either direction- before it's over. >>> >> >> Its mostly the deal thats been around for years now, ie lower tariffs for >> cars which were artificially high due to Brexit and awaiting a deal. >> >> Uk has made agreements over Bioethanol but US beef will need to be to UK >> standards so how much they actually sell remains to be seen! >> >> At least thats my reading of the National Farming Unions, posts they have >> made. >> >> This was a deal just waiting to happen, aka low hanging fruit, China or >> even the EU unlikely to get many concessions, didnt get much from the UK >> despite both sides political fluff. >> >> Roger Merriman > > I don't think the UK meat standards will be a problem. We might be > having similar standards in the USA soon. > > -- > C'est bon > Soloman > That would be wise as that’s essentially the stumbling block for US meat exports to Europe and Australia and New Zealand as fairly understandable why would they accept meat of lower standards than the home market has to provide? But that would take time and money to do, so I’d be cynical that it does happen. Roger Merriman