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From: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
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Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
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>>>
>>>>
>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could 
>>>> possibly
>>>> have.
>>>
>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European tribes
>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories and
>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>> tribalism has been heavy.

The inventor of 'scientific racism' was actually Charles Darwin and that 
an Englishman.

>>
>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
> 
> They still are.
>>
>> But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?
> 
> A group composed of common atavistic tribal values relating to their
> superiority.
>>
>> There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.
>>
>> E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.
> 
> Disoriented tribals. Real tribes relate to nationality. A nation is one
> big tribe, or superset of tribes. The nation is thus the updated concept
> of tribe.

No

At least I don't like this interpretation of the word 'nation'.

It is in common use in anglo-american media, however, but still wrong.

E.g. they call Apaches (for instance) 'first nation'.

That is racism and tribalism and by no means acceptable.


Therefore 'nation' is another name for an independent state.

To create a 'superset of tribes' as 'nation' and to identify this with 
the population of a country is simply unacceptable.

In case of Germany this is also totally wrong, because the Germanic 
tribes were mainly not living in the area which is today occupied by 
Germany.


TH