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From: Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
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Am Freitag000009, 09.05.2025 um 19:26 schrieb Physfitfreak:
> On 5/9/25 1:34 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
>> Am Mittwoch000007, 07.05.2025 um 14:14 schrieb Bertitaylor:
>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Tribes' is among the most stupidst concepts for life you could 
>>>>>> possibly
>>>>>> have.
>>>>>
>>>>> None more stupid conceptwise than the Germanic and North European 
>>>>> tribes
>>>>> who are the most tribal going by their awesome Nazi racist theories 
>>>>> and
>>>>> practices. Which are lies for aggrandization. The price for such
>>>>> tribalism has been heavy.
>>
>> The inventor of 'scientific racism' was actually Charles Darwin and 
>> that an Englishman.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Sure, there were tribes in ancient times, of course.
>>>
>>> They still are.
>>>>
>>>> But how would you define a tribe in modern terms?
>>>
>>> A group composed of common atavistic tribal values relating to their
>>> superiority.
>>>>
>>>> There were 'tribe revivals' in the 20th century.
>>>>
>>>> E.g. there have been 'Hippies', 'Mods' or 'Punks'.
>>>
>>> Disoriented tribals. Real tribes relate to nationality. A nation is one
>>> big tribe, or superset of tribes. The nation is thus the updated concept
>>> of tribe.
>>
>> No
>>
>> At least I don't like this interpretation of the word 'nation'.
>>
>> It is in common use in anglo-american media, however, but still wrong.
>>
>> E.g. they call Apaches (for instance) 'first nation'.
>>
>> That is racism and tribalism and by no means acceptable.
>>
>>
>> Therefore 'nation' is another name for an independent state.
>>
>> To create a 'superset of tribes' as 'nation' and to identify this with 
>> the population of a country is simply unacceptable.
>>
>> In case of Germany this is also totally wrong, because the Germanic 
>> tribes were mainly not living in the area which is today occupied by 
>> Germany.
>>
>>
>> TH
> 
> 
> 
> Oh, now you go for changing the meaning of English terms to escape your 
> ass.

No.

Actually we have the word 'Nation' in German, too, but with a different 
meaning.

This is a common problem, because often words sound similar in other 
languages, even if their meaning is different.

This problem has the name 'false friend'.

Now 'nation' does not refer to tribes in German but to countries.

Actually tribes are not a concept in modern societies. In anthropology 
they research tribes, of course. But modern societies do not know 
anything like that.

(Actually some subcultures like hooligans or 'bikers' use tribalism for 
entertainment purposes.

But that is more like a fashion in some subcultures.)


TH

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TH