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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
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Subject: Re: Average speeds
Date: 20 May 2025 15:01:18 GMT
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Catrike Ryder <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 19 May 2025 19:43:20 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri May 16 06:30:54 2025 zen cycle  wrote:
>>> On 5/15/2025 11:48 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2025 02:11:33 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu May 15 16:50:43 2025 Jeff Liebermann  wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 15 May 2025 19:04:44 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why does the Strava ride say that I am blocked?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now, that's interesting.  I thought that you no longer have a Strava
>>>>>> account:
>>>>>> <https://www.strava.com/athletes/27432450>
>>>>>> <https://www.strava.com/athletes/114659696>
>>>>>> It would seem that you wiped all your data, but left the account in
>>>>>> place.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I recall that you intentionally closed your Strava account because too
>>>>>> many 20 year olds were ridiculing your amazing achievements.  If so,
>>>>>> trying to login to your former account would result in something like
>>>>>> "account closed".  A "blocked" account would be the result of having
>>>>>> Strava kick you off their system, probably due to some form of abuse
>>>>>> or misuse.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can "block" any other athelete you don't want to see, but I don't
>>>>>> think you can block yourself:
>>>>>> "Manage Followers and Block Athletes"
>>>>>> <https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918327-Manage-Followers-and-Block-Athletes>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Want to revise your claim that you are "blocked"?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> I don't know about those accounts other than I thought I needed an
>>>>> account in order to get into Flunky's reference. Maybe one of those
>>>>> accounts is the old original but the newer on was because I didn't
>>>>> have the account name and password so opened a new one to look into
>>>>> Flunky'a reference. But no - it said that my NAME had a red light.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't think anyone cares about what you DON'T know.
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't mention your claim to have ridden 928 miles this year.  The
>>>> number may have come from a different thread.  I was commenting on
>>>> your Strava account(s) being "blocked" and your rather vague and
>>>> misleading error messages.  You seem to have problems reproducing
>>>> error messages.
>>>> 
>>>>> Is it your insinuation that because Strava shows zero miles that I didn't do 928 miles?
>>>> 
>>>> No.  I think it's rather obvious that if Strava shows zero miles and
>>>> no other information beyond your name, you didn't record your rides on
>>>> Strava.  If you have a different explanation for the absence of your
>>>> ride data, I'm willing to listen.  Some proof that you actually rode
>>>> 928 miles would be useful.
>>>> 
>>>>> Don't you know anything?
>>>> 
>>>> Why do you care what I know?  The problem is that you can't explain
>>>> things that are easily researched online and produce endless lies,
>>>> distortions and fabrications apparently for the purpose of salvaging
>>>> what's left of your reputation.  What I know, or don't know, has
>>>> nothing to do with what YOU know.  I could be a genius or an idiot and
>>>> you would still be the unchanged Tom.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> He still doesn't seem to grasp the notion that he's only _claiming_ what 
>>> his ride stats are, then claiming I'm cheating when I post actual data.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> You aren't posting "real data", you are posting VIRTUAL DATA and a
>> kidergarten child could fool that.
> 
> What's virtual data?
> 
> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman
> 

Tom is trying to prove that Zwift aka smart trainers that one generally
ride your own bike on the trainer which uses power meters and so on.

It’s not my interest as I’m not performance oriented, though I take a mild
interest as well technology! But regardless the folks I know who use Zwift
seem to get the same sort of results as they do in non virtual rides, which
makes sense as it measures power etc.

Roger Merriman