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Path: ...!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!news.cgarbs.de!news.samoylyk.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Leather Saddle Update Date: 21 May 2025 16:12:02 GMT Lines: 44 Message-ID: <m96caiFp8bcU1@mid.individual.net> References: <1007if6$3qbh1$1@dont-email.me> <1008jem$ibg$2@dont-email.me> <7d6h2k1c5hgfqqvkpt4d7t4951vn1s3jnk@4ax.com> <100cmdv$10dsh$2@dont-email.me> <s52m2k9epq9636ur0vije3s1bbs9ejeje2@4ax.com> <s7am2kd13rmdupdr70ufbhhqfjumab6q5d@4ax.com> <m9102mFtfdpU1@mid.individual.net> <c4lm2k1mbkfnejrtt1360ii4iafqb832e5@4ax.com> <m91du4F14jbU2@mid.individual.net> <el1n2kdrs25bbb0l24hm74jjtthfk5ecje@4ax.com> <m939a4Fa4ghU1@mid.individual.net> <100i7gh$29roh$5@dont-email.me> <m93u9uFdb6jU1@mid.individual.net> <100iq21$2doci$3@dont-email.me> <m94bc2Ffb7kU1@mid.individual.net> <100kn47$2rlcf$2@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net eVLEkU//57xcP1WuIzUD+gCagxJJBfKL6s1ms6ZYAPBtZB7ezw Cancel-Lock: sha1:C8ky0QqQMA68DZASH7T3QCFcW8A= sha1:N5BgHLLzp2j5thSbAJUPhhPrSlI= sha256:BMXZe/xpbrz+1pDN9TfesJqpMNoxniEx14xebevFEFs= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Bytes: 3081 zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 5/20/2025 5:43 PM, Roger Merriman wrote: >> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> On 5/20/2025 2:00 PM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>>> Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> On 5/20/2025 8:02 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Only sore wrists/hands or rather arm pump is from 1980/90’s MTB’s on long >>>>>> descents, where you could get for arm pump, some of my fellow Gravellers >>>>>> get arm pump ... >>>>> >>>>> What's "arm pump"? I'm unfamiliar with the term. >>>>> >>>> Sore fore arms from braking, on longer technical down hills, aka stuff your >>>> constantly reapplying the brakes. >>> >>> Ah. I remember my wife complaining about that from one long, steel >>> descent. She refused to ever ride that hill again. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >> I’ve not heard it ever used by roadies but MTBers whose terrain will push >> brakes rather harder, and why they have 4 pot and bigger rotors and so on. >> >> This said my MTBing even at my weight two pot seems ample the SLX finned >> stuff I’ve yet to get it to fade, which I did with the original brake set, >> with the same rotors. >> >> Roger Merriman >> > > Wrists, neck, and arms will get sore from braking down a long steep road > descent. > I’m sure though not to the same level as say 90’s MTB even the CX bike I had with truely woeful cantis, while did I did need to keep pulling and quite hard, and generally focused more on braking than on the Gravel bike with discs, wasn’t enough to give me sore arms I am admittedly fairly solidly built and all that. Ie good reasons that MTB’s went disk first. Roger Merriman