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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: Science of cycling still largely mysterious Date: 25 May 2025 20:41:19 GMT Lines: 30 Message-ID: <m9hdjfFjd3bU1@mid.individual.net> References: <100i80u$2aalg$1@dont-email.me> <9unr2kdgriu88flb0177vfa2auf46irnrf@4ax.com> <100l2kj$2u569$3@dont-email.me> <m96qfdFre62U1@mid.individual.net> <100lmuv$32g7r$5@dont-email.me> <s_kYP.10807$IJr4.5785@fx47.iad> <m9g2raFcp98U1@mid.individual.net> <100vl0p$1g5s0$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net T+vymbFt1fbSJgoLePwFagNj3vW10d92vDA/8F47hRJLOSFp5O Cancel-Lock: sha1:z++yIQ0+2rBEtUStSTwK/lhC7Gg= sha1:pW57qELtuCc7fJCMwoeuViPQX9w= sha256:sse9z7nDu/xS0wjmA5qxMXO32RSLmRcTCoDH+ER1Xuk= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.5 (iPad) Frank Krygowski <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > On 5/25/2025 4:31 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: >> cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Because touring bikes are supposed to be slower, people often don't >>> notice that the wide tires actuallu make them faster. It certainly took >>> long enout to notice that and I was as guilty as anyone else. >>> >> I very much doubt that an older touring bike with 32mm tyres was faster >> than race bike with 23mm tyres, you need to be comparing like with like. > > I think many people could use a review about what actually makes a bike > faster for road riding. There are always a lot of myths circulating. > > One way to think about the question is to first list what are the > physics of resistance to forward motion? What actually slows a bike > down? Where does the lost energy go? > > I’d also say folks need to be honest is that your primary aim? And back to having to your position on the bike, can you really hold and be comfortable on a bike with a race position? I’m absolutely sure my gravel bike is slower than a full on road bike particularly ones more race focused, but I’m also sure it’s more comfortable and sure footed. Roger Merriman