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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: dn <PythonList@DancesWithMice.info> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Configuring an object via a dictionary Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2024 10:19:10 +1300 Organization: DWM Lines: 21 Message-ID: <mailman.104.1710623959.3452.python-list@python.org> References: <b169e599-e81f-45ce-8e2a-7027b59a4627@tompassin.net> <60E92E67-1412-4DE6-B330-495343107474@barrys-emacs.org> <cae8bb0c-fe89-4c6a-845f-d0d691207e2e@DancesWithMice.info> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de bqBzCblB3CqPWNj9DWMqvwdVg2McYjNswv6D5DEW11kQ== Cancel-Lock: sha1:WpxIbb5zbsVirSRUxcXWjL2iV1o= sha256:I/eqH16GmR5xoepLP9oEBBEpcP33jjkdn336/JgYEKk= Return-Path: <PythonList@DancesWithMice.info> X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key" header.d=danceswithmice.info header.i=@danceswithmice.info header.b=WjN3bI5t; dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral X-Spam-Status: OK 0.001 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'mar': 0.07; 'please?': 0.07; '=dn': 0.09; 'fails': 0.09; 'from:addr:danceswithmice.info': 0.09; 'from:addr:pythonlist': 0.09; 'values.': 0.09; 'barry': 0.16; 'hand,': 0.16; 'idiom': 0.16; 'message- id:@DancesWithMice.info': 0.16; 'received:51.254': 0.16; 'received:51.254.211': 0.16; 'received:51.254.211.219': 0.16; 'received:cloud': 0.16; 'received:rangi.cloud': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'problem': 0.16; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.20; "i've": 0.22; 'examples': 0.25; 'bit': 0.27; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.30; 'header:Organization:1': 0.31; 'gotten': 0.32; 'python-list': 0.32; 'received:192.168.1': 0.32; 'able': 0.34; 'header:In-Reply- To:1': 0.34; 'fix': 0.36; 'errors': 0.36; 'those': 0.36; 'using': 0.37; 'received:192.168': 0.37; 'list': 0.39; 'skip:i 20': 0.62; 'received:51': 0.64; 'production': 0.71 DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 vps.rangi.cloud 1EAFF3522 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=danceswithmice.info; s=staff; t=1710623956; bh=NgLoIlXqLoCtFmBMdmvTltf3G4eUDseY2M2HdWpLuq4=; h=Date:From:Subject:To:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=WjN3bI5tAa2O4uLcWdN3VGmAqCzLC6YJTRsAnwLKL2TGKnld+8UHpVRWwtkptwGb5 FG8HTe/xyv3tT4wXRaPYrzuMZ8BVN9MSXQMAdVo2hQ9+SyqXFdzVI5P043/caO3NMm wmAYk09RtyhEYmgi5qPdLvKgw8P0etGMtFIev5Jn/bi/YjEkCSgiTBpIkdxYImCWp+ zwiU+wWJWHGOD7VtbzgX2sEt//wpeL3CwGvu3o327rCYDhzQROTrY+HrQDKzTEulh7 hRtZEgz/3MYkzoqXlMvhHQ0zvtwiHwKyOcIKHuiHsMyLZo72kIYJ+mThnH+fjPkPkS uSLjxVqHiM7Ug== User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <60E92E67-1412-4DE6-B330-495343107474@barrys-emacs.org> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/> List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org> List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <cae8bb0c-fe89-4c6a-845f-d0d691207e2e@DancesWithMice.info> X-Mailman-Original-References: <b169e599-e81f-45ce-8e2a-7027b59a4627@tompassin.net> <60E92E67-1412-4DE6-B330-495343107474@barrys-emacs.org> Bytes: 4419 On 16/03/24 21:15, Barry via Python-list wrote: > > >> On 15 Mar 2024, at 19:51, Thomas Passin via Python-list <python-list@python.org> wrote: >> >> I've always like writing using the "or" form and have never gotten bit > > I, on the other hand, had to fix a production problem that using “or” introducted. > I avoid this idiom because it fails on falsy values. As with any other facility, one has to understand ALL implications! It must be one of those intensely-frustrating errors to track-down, which is then oh-so-simple to fix! Are you able to list (real, if suitably anonymised) examples of where the truthy/falsy was inappropriate, please? -- Regards, =dn