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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Chris Angelico <rosuav@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Couldn't install numpy on Python 2.7 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2024 11:07:18 +1000 Lines: 27 Message-ID: <mailman.129.1718240852.2909.python-list@python.org> References: <CAGJtH9QConSeiZfChKaJxz4wKovKj4XUASm5ckEf=zUuD=Pypw@mail.gmail.com> <mailman.111.1718191856.2909.python-list@python.org> <L7iaO.9557$IG21.6265@fx15.ams4> <004401dabce6$004569e0$00d03da0$@gmail.com> <399785e3-0cab-4e38-b219-89863a762d38@mrabarnett.plus.com> <004f01dabcef$95d76d60$c1864820$@gmail.com> <CAPTjJmo5sEbFWje5JHAREpVOsJHQ-u4ZtHzQAubS2ox41zDt4Q@mail.gmail.com> <007a01dabd10$8fda0f50$af8e2df0$@gmail.com> <CAPTjJmrzJXvpLgFqJsM=3dXrVALmfO43LYJncGeZaeBH7i-G9A@mail.gmail.com> <00a201dabd1f$1dfd5b30$59f81190$@gmail.com> <CAPTjJmqQp5M8P4p36eEswoJy50opBzoCBjPEuJharg7236BTuw@mail.gmail.com> <00bd01dabd2c$c2dc9e60$4895db20$@gmail.com> <CAPTjJmp0agMA0kB_ZWZkO74bgFEBaP2A4fFS2QzML8esn1gorw@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; 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Wed, 12 Jun 2024 18:07:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <00bd01dabd2c$c2dc9e60$4895db20$@gmail.com> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/> List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org> List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <CAPTjJmp0agMA0kB_ZWZkO74bgFEBaP2A4fFS2QzML8esn1gorw@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <CAGJtH9QConSeiZfChKaJxz4wKovKj4XUASm5ckEf=zUuD=Pypw@mail.gmail.com> <mailman.111.1718191856.2909.python-list@python.org> <L7iaO.9557$IG21.6265@fx15.ams4> <004401dabce6$004569e0$00d03da0$@gmail.com> <399785e3-0cab-4e38-b219-89863a762d38@mrabarnett.plus.com> <004f01dabcef$95d76d60$c1864820$@gmail.com> <CAPTjJmo5sEbFWje5JHAREpVOsJHQ-u4ZtHzQAubS2ox41zDt4Q@mail.gmail.com> <007a01dabd10$8fda0f50$af8e2df0$@gmail.com> <CAPTjJmrzJXvpLgFqJsM=3dXrVALmfO43LYJncGeZaeBH7i-G9A@mail.gmail.com> <00a201dabd1f$1dfd5b30$59f81190$@gmail.com> <CAPTjJmqQp5M8P4p36eEswoJy50opBzoCBjPEuJharg7236BTuw@mail.gmail.com> <00bd01dabd2c$c2dc9e60$4895db20$@gmail.com> Bytes: 7118 On Thu, 13 Jun 2024 at 10:58, <avi.e.gross@gmail.com> wrote: > > Chris, > > You seem to have perceived an insult that I remain unaware of. If you're not aware that you're saying this, then don't say it. > I looked up FUD and sharply disagree with suggestions I am trying to somehow > cause Fear, Uncertainty or Doubt. I simply asked if another such update ... > as a hypothetical. Had I asked what impact Quantum Computers might have on > existing languages, would that also be FUD, or just a speculation in a > discussion. What DID you intend by your comments? Were you trying to imply that work spent upgrading to Python 3 would have to be redone any day now when this hypothetical massively-incompatible Python 4 is released? Or what? What WERE you trying to say? If you don't understand how damaging it can be to say that sort of thing, **don't say it**. Otherwise, expect responses like this. I *detest* the attitude that you can make vague disparaging comments and then hide behind claims that you had no idea how damaging you were being. ChrisA