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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: <avi.e.gross@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: RE: Popping key causes dict derived from object to revert to object Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 14:11:00 -0400 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <mailman.16.1711131063.3468.python-list@python.org> References: <87zfurgb6t.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <uti7n1$2ef92$1@dont-email.me> <87plvmr93v.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <005a01da7c84$4b9ba5f0$e2d2f1d0$@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de kD3j3cQjJDOztQBjJZwGCwPX9xVvRfWJpTGxiYKWXHAA== Cancel-Lock: sha1:Of9zgaVaAzu7suxWETaqX/S+H2g= sha256:5egGY5jP7dD7OxFST1P/EMMtsTPIYBuj8Y5rLGBx28o= Return-Path: <avi.e.gross@gmail.com> X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key" header.d=gmail.com header.i=@gmail.com header.b=mI7ScEAD; dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral X-Spam-Status: OK 0.013 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.97; '*S*': 0.00; 'def': 0.04; 'minus': 0.09; 'received:108': 0.09; 'trivial': 0.09; 'dict': 0.16; 'key-value': 0.16; 'method?': 0.16; 'odd': 0.16; 'variant': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'message-id:@gmail.com': 0.18; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.20; 'tried': 0.26; 'leave': 0.27; '>>>': 0.28; 'thinking': 0.28; 'seem': 0.31; 'concept': 0.32; 'but': 0.32; 'there': 0.33; 'able': 0.34; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.34; 'received:google.com': 0.34; 'item': 0.35; 'from:addr:gmail.com': 0.35; 'subject:from': 0.37; 'received:209.85': 0.37; 'others': 0.37; 'received:209': 0.39; 'adding': 0.39; 'use': 0.39; 'received:209.85.222': 0.39; 'explain': 0.40; 'want': 0.40; 'your': 0.64; 'similar': 0.65; 'del': 0.70 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1711131061; x=1711735861; darn=python.org; h=thread-index:content-language:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:message-id:date:subject:in-reply-to:references:to:from :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zOz/KX8gsrD5I89b7nJ60tb2HJnEh+ZceQnsuccHDk8=; b=mI7ScEAD5i+eHh4aMzQHogXaRNw0PU/YE9RfvmpiIwo/AAQSraNPh7kt+JgZSSGwGG 7u2skWTzRTIQTcmmnwnRZKd/00semR0wSTg722JzrESumtOmVhN5BF4bAC99RGIwcGMt jTklSA19rDiko3khsjZKzE1SukA9Xeb7GhWvzEpG9wQJBFu/bCja9sBI4Wfj0s/Y6HkR zFsBoFQr+/3hObGpnFzs92JEl4wdzpPjzlp2I3OkC4/VfQYIELlN21QsP7EnjVPePnSp iJmTlVBkqgb/EDacLcibU5+ibptKBqqhm+DschOjxS8VhfGMIGTxcOEnnoWjWPGO50s/ v01Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1711131061; x=1711735861; h=thread-index:content-language:content-transfer-encoding :mime-version:message-id:date:subject:in-reply-to:references:to:from :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=zOz/KX8gsrD5I89b7nJ60tb2HJnEh+ZceQnsuccHDk8=; b=eBL5OXAJMhrhThYOF5fqeAeEel+XXePQzLMYo4P5uHCsHTtNoX/8gdWjqwbhQQrTdh XCZWAUZj84/yZT3AK5Vl2VmQHwtz01zLMfTlMF5/RnvuRItNSuo4GWWHwoIuKjMOjXSb FYyPpG0Tn3aXA9RBwqh2bna5wvtzoiMVWz/nqseYrZ+BD+o1cxtnlgDnGhlZGjFTPIOE c400iX9tgN7nAz7b6sXrZNsC3hKOs5yZ3VKupgp5Gd06jBOJm/0wvFOwMqEZ/W9vAvYy bO6vyM7mR5GqULcndlcGxM7qd6MVJaPidwAKj00sHgy/Ye6SiI0X7N3D1gxTnxWKiiAa CSyA== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCU7zmWp4fFJrDYWqYEI8eNhjfW4PJKoKfJT+wsUin0vBYbdDNaHAbunLMJgKvRCfw/blrRjoGbZZBMEtXklV24YphnNXyHD X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yw2HsWSXsUFElbepd6mAByxAN3cAcLIgNRt9mRBgwp8R9PmbcFd kj+7BSh8F0rgHlYAEP3dg3NsYdsurY6G6WKrrvqCT7gkLf3GL5M5ARQHh4+c X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEwACass8gvJ3AEye1ZqEoIjQ3fbvq9k9Xb/s+3Ia005OvLzBINxz+DNjItkV7T9cNJhb6f4g== X-Received: by 2002:a05:620a:b96:b0:788:7622:ceb2 with SMTP id k22-20020a05620a0b9600b007887622ceb2mr516827qkh.18.1711131061473; Fri, 22 Mar 2024 11:11:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87plvmr93v.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AQKM7iLteXOq+KoZ2KtNA4Zjj8pI1wKmK1mHAVVm8Jqvv01YYA== X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/> List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org> List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <005a01da7c84$4b9ba5f0$e2d2f1d0$@gmail.com> X-Mailman-Original-References: <87zfurgb6t.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <uti7n1$2ef92$1@dont-email.me> <87plvmr93v.fsf@zedat.fu-berlin.de> Bytes: 5580 Loris wrote: "Yes, I was mistakenly thinking that the popping the element would leave me with the dict minus the popped key-value pair. Seem like there is no such function." Others have tried to explain and pointed out you can del and then use the changed dict. But consider the odd concept of writing your own trivial function. def remaining(adict, anitem): _ = adict.pop(anitem) # alternatively duse del on dict and item return adict >>> remaining({"first": 1, "second": 2, "third": 3}, "second") {'first': 1, 'third': 3} Or do you want to be able to call it as in dict.remaining(key) by subclassing your own variant of dict and adding a similar method?