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Am Sat, Oct 05, 2024 at 10:27:33PM +0200 schrieb Ulrich Goebel via Python-=
list:

> Debian (or even Python3 itself) doesn't allow to pip install required pa=
ckages system wide, so I have to use virtual environments even there. But =
is it right, that I have to do that for every single user?
>
> Can someone give me a hint to find an howto for that?

AFAICT the factual consensus appears to be

	install modules as packaged by the system

	you won't need anything else

If you do find how to cleanly install non-packaged modules
in a system-wide way (even if that means installing every
application into its own *system-wide* venv) - do let me
know.

Karsten
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