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Holzer via Python-list <python-list@python.org> wrote: > > On 2025-04-18 13:24:28 +1200, Greg Ewing via Python-list wrote: > > On 18/04/25 9:41 am, Mats Wichmann wrote: > > > There's just not a really great answer to this. > > > > Seems to me a system-installed application shouldn't be looking in the > > user's .local packages in the first place. That should only be for things > > the user has installed "for this user". > > It's not the application that looks into .local, it's Python. If you say > that a system-installed Python shouldn't look into ~/.local, then you've > just disabled that mechanism completely. If not then Python would > somehow have to distinguish between system-installed and user-installed > scripts. This isn't as easy as checking whether the path starts with > /usr/bin or whether it belongs to root. Tying into the system's package > manager doesn't look appealing to me (not to mention that it might be > unacceptably slow). Couldn't the system-installed scripts have a shebang like: #!/usr/bin/python3 -s -- Oscar