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From: Bill Deegan <bill@baddogconsulting.com>
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Subject: Re: Help needed - - running into issues with python and its tools
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why reply to me instead of to the list?
It's generally considered bad form to do so.


Do you have any python 3 installed on your system?
Or python 2.7?
If not, can you install such via system package?

-Bill



On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 6:06=E2=80=AFPM o1bigtenor <o1bigtenor@gmail.com> wr=
ote:

>
>
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2024 at 5:28=E2=80=AFPM Bill Deegan via Python-list <
> python-list@python.org> wrote:
>
>> Did Mats suggestion of:
>> python3.13 -m venv new_venv
>> $ new_venv/bin/python --version
>> Python 3.13.0b4
>> $ source new_venv/bin/activate
>>
>> Not work?
>> That should work on any system, with any system installl python.
>> It's not trying to modify the system installed python in anyway...
>>
>> If not, please paste the error output you're getting.
>>
>
>  # python3.13 -m venv new_venv
> -bash: python3.13: command not found
>
> $ python3.13 -m venv new_venv
> bash: python3.13: command not found
>
> There you have it - - - the first one run as superuser and the second as
> usr.
>
> Regards
>
>
>