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Sun, 19 May 2024 00:32:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Original-From: Alan Gauld <alan.gauld@yahoo.co.uk> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-GB In-Reply-To: <hl7nhk-165.ln1@lazy.lzy> X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/> List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org> List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <a0b970e1-6c17-444d-a720-756fc9700a81@yahoo.co.uk> X-Mailman-Original-References: <fqN0O.38287$ZZU.19060@fx07.ams4> <TUI-20240515112645@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v23j1c$15nao$4@dont-email.me> <Pvs1O.8533$H1X8.1544@fx05.ams4> <20240518151913.w5qqsw67gndy57ry@hjp.at> <4VhVBk0sy7znVGB@mail.python.org> <dc837fb2-fee3-4d7c-81b1-fa70cacdc3bf@wichmann.us> <mailman.19.1716055464.2909.python-list@python.org> <hl7nhk-165.ln1@lazy.lzy> Bytes: 7270 On 18/05/2024 19:12, Piergiorgio Sartor via Python-list wrote: >> So venvs make managing all that pretty convenient. Dunno why everybody's >> so down on venvs... Not so much down on them, they are just one extra step that's mostly not needed(in my use case) > Only people which are *not* using python... :-) > > In my experience, venvs is the only possible > way to use python properly. Well, I've been using Python since 1998 on Linux, Windows and MacOS and have yet to find a use for a venv. I've played with them when they first came out but haven't actually found a scenario where I've thought "I need a venv for that!" But then I'm a sole user, I have 3 or 4 projects going but only me working on them. I only have 2 Python versions at any time and the OS handles that just fine without any venvs. > The dependency nightmare created by python, pip > and all the rest cannot be resolved otherwise. I've honestly never experienced this "nightmare". I install stuff and it just works. -- Alan G Author of the Learn to Program web site http://www.alan-g.me.uk/ http://www.amazon.com/author/alan_gauld Follow my photo-blog on Flickr at: http://www.flickr.com/photos/alangauldphotos