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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Thomas Passin <list1@tompassin.net> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: Terminal Emulator (Posting On Python-List Prohibited) Date: Sun, 19 May 2024 07:51:46 -0400 Lines: 27 Message-ID: <mailman.27.1716127991.2909.python-list@python.org> References: <fqN0O.38287$ZZU.19060@fx07.ams4> <TUI-20240515112645@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de> <v23j1c$15nao$4@dont-email.me> <Pvs1O.8533$H1X8.1544@fx05.ams4> <20240518151913.w5qqsw67gndy57ry@hjp.at> <4VhVBk0sy7znVGB@mail.python.org> <dc837fb2-fee3-4d7c-81b1-fa70cacdc3bf@wichmann.us> <mailman.19.1716055464.2909.python-list@python.org> <hl7nhk-165.ln1@lazy.lzy> <a0b970e1-6c17-444d-a720-756fc9700a81@yahoo.co.uk> <42fbdfc4-a023-4f28-8d1e-43458c6fad0b@tompassin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de g+fK1txkvwpSLME/ywfnowij8ZOQQ+XygsQYokaydsaw== Cancel-Lock: sha1:1xbYKJo8YQzdAErSmPNE7Ox7YNQ= sha256:+t9LAzg6Cey4sOa9fOguDNxzUWjY+vWHrmHBv0ZZ1t4= Return-Path: <list1@tompassin.net> X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; 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One way it can bite even you is if you have a program installed whose requirements claim it needs a certain library of version no higher than X, and you already already have a later version of that library installed since one of your other programs requires it. Pip won't install the new program because of this conflict. In reality, you may know the the new program would work fine with the version of the library you installed, but the packagers of the new program didn't realize they should have updated their requirements. With venvs, you can have separate environments for each. Of course this doesn't help if you need both packages in the same environment...