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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.in-chemnitz.de!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail From: Ethan Furman <ethan@stoneleaf.us> Newsgroups: comp.lang.python Subject: Re: bring back nntp library to python3 Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2024 16:08:31 -0700 Lines: 16 Message-ID: <mailman.50.1723676921.2890.python-list@python.org> References: <LTikP88eJILZwPX6abc@test.de> <87bk1ug8vh.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <CAJQBtgkmJnaaZGCTjrcjpY1AAPgtiBJ6qGhrPXEmfzQ408ZMuw@mail.gmail.com> <f02bc1cf-e18e-437d-926e-64c3c8f07fbf@yahoo.co.uk> <a7b0fdf6-0bba-94ce-90b2-82f9e6860aa4@stoneleaf.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de AhXNj4orZvigngO9SMbjngQuRSlLXlZUv0aofTaP7fPg== Cancel-Lock: sha1:b2mQSPBNGZG2RBCxuIZPn/03/Hs= sha256:FmeNKCaUC/NQqdZLUPwPMwir0LNk7UI9A+uI3wxapRg= Return-Path: <ethan@stoneleaf.us> X-Original-To: python-list@python.org Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key" header.d=stoneleaf.us header.i=@stoneleaf.us header.b=pGM9t8a/; dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral X-Spam-Status: OK 0.002 X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 1.00; '*S*': 0.00; 'influence': 0.07; 'subject:library': 0.07; 'python.': 0.08; 'moved': 0.09; 'received:217.70': 0.09; 'received:gandi.net': 0.09; 'received:mail.gandi.net': 0.09; 'from:addr:ethan': 0.16; 'from:addr:stoneleaf.us': 0.16; 'from:name:ethan furman': 0.16; 'gauld': 0.16; 'message-id:@stoneleaf.us': 0.16; 'subject:bring': 0.16; '~ethan~': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16; 'python': 0.16; 'probably': 0.17; 'to:addr:python-list': 0.20; 'run': 0.23; '(and': 0.25; 'seems': 0.26; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.30; 'community.': 0.31; 'python-list': 0.32; 'but': 0.32; 'header:In-Reply-To:1': 0.34; 'people': 0.36; 'change': 0.36; 'alan': 0.40; 'directed': 0.40; 'came': 0.65; 'received:217': 0.67; 'ability': 0.71; 'care': 0.71; 'major': 0.78; 'subject:back': 0.84 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=stoneleaf.us; s=gm1; t=1723676914; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=EP6/fFz0caqq+HFze+2/t+dHQsJzSrVhY8jDDsy0iTA=; b=pGM9t8a/TmtX41U7YPnUfKMt5+ATTS+itLCveTlLQBIlvtUbfyC5zRA9s2w7QWPG11o3De r8qwB5RZVCQ9FoNmEaixftKkGgJNr1B3XvrNuTMV9bxOE3YbVAcRQ+4KMWNqx6OFWnidXf tl88lxHow1+CroSpHI6uPhBQHk3bEyrK/2wYCCjYIfFl1XFA9Gz7ARbb/K9o8+NFPzX7YI hUo42L24jzy1F0G2g7Dx+SioNf44xxAEBbBMm7q1ZG0QPIag+kHBY2G9Qgh/P8Ewl0n2mw UUI+8JDhZxXA2cd647nEq6OcoOnUMy82Nb4lEkDG31Erp0EoJvng8RUZTCr41A== User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.9.1 Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <f02bc1cf-e18e-437d-926e-64c3c8f07fbf@yahoo.co.uk> X-GND-Sasl: ethan@stoneleaf.us X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39 Precedence: list List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language <python-list.python.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/> List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org> List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>, <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe> X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <a7b0fdf6-0bba-94ce-90b2-82f9e6860aa4@stoneleaf.us> X-Mailman-Original-References: <LTikP88eJILZwPX6abc@test.de> <87bk1ug8vh.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <CAJQBtgkmJnaaZGCTjrcjpY1AAPgtiBJ6qGhrPXEmfzQ408ZMuw@mail.gmail.com> <f02bc1cf-e18e-437d-926e-64c3c8f07fbf@yahoo.co.uk> Bytes: 4587 On 8/14/24 15:56, Alan Gauld via Python-list wrote: > Lots of people care but the ability to influence these > decisions seems to have been removed far from the > general python user community. Python has moved from > the BDFL/Bazaar to the Committee/Cathedral. Probably > an inevitable consequence of its current "popularity". The move came because of the vitriol directed at the BDFL (and others) with every major (and sometimes minor) change to Python. Every action has consequences, and in this case the consequence was that we are now run by committee. -- ~Ethan~