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On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 at 09:22, aotto1968 via Python-list
<python-list@python.org> wrote:
>
> On 30.12.24 18:29, Michael Torrie wrote:
> > On 12/26/24 12:34 AM, aotto1968 via Python-list wrote:
> >> sorry you don't understand the problem=E2=80=A6
> >>
> >>   > You managed to make a build of Python that attempts to link to a D=
LL
> >>
> >> I never touch the OpenSUSE python. the OpenSUSE python try to use my
> >> sqalite3.
> >
> > The *only* mechanism that would cause the system python binary to try t=
o
> > load modules and libraries from your local install is your environment
> > (environment variables).
> >
>
> that is right because MY environment variable point to MY local user stuf=
f.
>
> The CORE problem is that OpenSUSE (Linux) python use MY env.
>
> If I call a OS feature like "cnf" this should NOT interact with my privat=
e user stuff.
>
> the OpenSUSE do it right because OpenSUSE use /usr/bin/python in "cnf" BU=
T the
> python think to interact with MY env.
>
> To make it short: The OS python will NEVER proper work if LOCAL user stuf=
f is used.

People have tried in vain to explain this to you. You refuse to
listen. Go and argue with your OS instead of us; we're not the ones in
charge of this. Maybe if you argue enough, you'll start to understand
what "make install" does.

ChrisA