Path: ...!news.mixmin.net!news.swapon.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail
From: dn <PythonList@DancesWithMice.info>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.python
Subject: Re: Is there a better way? [combining f-string, thousands separator, 
 right align]
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2024 20:42:32 +1200
Organization: DWM
Lines: 53
Message-ID: <mailman.8.1724661765.2917.python-list@python.org>
References: <oRHyO.142039$bV6e.134076@fx08.ams4>
 <09102d57-41cd-4428-b96f-d69e2ffe9c95@DancesWithMice.info>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de liRU+UsTQJDI5fHU4HUkLQp1Vh9GsgHlMkeRfqGkMtXg==
Cancel-Lock: sha1:CH5cfXM74ZLSpWf94AobkPPpa1k= sha256:YIg6dh6buYHp4KCClPZt31lWOe9NWxv+skw85FL32Oo=
Return-Path: <PythonList@DancesWithMice.info>
X-Original-To: python-list@python.org
Delivered-To: python-list@mail.python.org
Authentication-Results: mail.python.org; dkim=pass
 reason="2048-bit key; unprotected key"
 header.d=danceswithmice.info header.i=@danceswithmice.info
 header.b=PJTVBSBV; dkim-adsp=pass; dkim-atps=neutral
X-Spam-Status: OK 0.068
X-Spam-Evidence: '*H*': 0.86; '*S*': 0.00; 'string': 0.07; '=dn':
 0.09; 'from:addr:danceswithmice.info': 0.09;
 'from:addr:pythonlist': 0.09; 'subject:, \n ': 0.09; '>>>>': 0.16;
 'css': 0.16; 'expressions': 0.16; 'indeed': 0.16; 'message-
 id:@DancesWithMice.info': 0.16; 'received:cloud': 0.16;
 'received:rangi.cloud': 0.16; 'subject:align': 0.16;
 'subject:string': 0.16; 'subject:way': 0.16; 'wrote:': 0.16;
 'to:addr:python-list': 0.20; 'do,': 0.26; '>>>': 0.28; 'settings':
 0.28; 'it,': 0.29; 'header:User-Agent:1': 0.30; 'default': 0.31;
 'header:Organization:1': 0.31; 'ease': 0.32; 'python-list': 0.32;
 'subject:there': 0.32; 'received:192.168.1': 0.32; 'header:In-
 Reply-To:1': 0.34; 'presented': 0.37; "skip:' 10": 0.37; 'really':
 0.37; 'received:192.168': 0.37; 'could': 0.38; 'added': 0.39;
 'define': 0.40; 'both': 0.40; 'want': 0.40; 'should': 0.40;
 'higher': 0.60; 'format': 0.62; 'subject': 0.63; 'ever': 0.63;
 'thus': 0.64; 'your': 0.64; 'matter': 0.68; 'further': 0.69;
 'obvious': 0.69; 'within': 0.69; 'subject:]': 0.70; 'skip:f 30':
 0.71; 'skip:f 20': 0.75; 'html': 0.80; 'states': 0.80; 'further,':
 0.84; 'subject:better': 0.91
DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 vps.rangi.cloud C50C56844
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=danceswithmice.info;
 s=staff; t=1724661758;
 bh=59vOgzeQKyopLDGSvbbA97ul7OUQ9s4daPAhx8zY92U=;
 h=Date:From:Subject:To:References:In-Reply-To:From;
 b=PJTVBSBVdEReMjd2tTnLZvRGQD8ge3e+ILR9c9YdT1gi5OTuW3CnXvro+qAB1n+7C
 mf4M9Ii+H0uv8IB/IzD0OY3ygb5A+62O27pcy/S0Bi7vd8g19pmzca0pzFxFgdOVik
 OoIkNuXG3JN26C6ZBKzyUmimm/GDcTLbzn8K0KCnUdCKL6NoCDB2/4JyN/GYEgFz6P
 DDPzyLJu+dyGxmGUsTr9veoBolZn7MijTW6HVx44xj8SiIS0zwmpDeQVzsqMpnOpsE
 j7EeoIU/7BDGXhzq5MBG60gEXtA62C8CYvEtsq118SEy+SjyqsbM5se1ffGuAvSvXz
 Qze0axJ+iypsA==
User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird
Content-Language: en-US
In-Reply-To: <oRHyO.142039$bV6e.134076@fx08.ams4>
X-BeenThere: python-list@python.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: General discussion list for the Python programming language
 <python-list.python.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/options/python-list>,
 <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/>
List-Post: <mailto:python-list@python.org>
List-Help: <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list>,
 <mailto:python-list-request@python.org?subject=subscribe>
X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID: <09102d57-41cd-4428-b96f-d69e2ffe9c95@DancesWithMice.info>
X-Mailman-Original-References: <oRHyO.142039$bV6e.134076@fx08.ams4>
Bytes: 5531

On 26/08/24 03:12, Gilmeh Serda via Python-list wrote:
> Subject explains it, or ask.
> 
> This is a bloody mess:
> 
>>>> s = "123456789" # arrives as str
>>>> f"{f'{int(s):,}': >20}"
> '         123,456,789'


With recent improvements to the expressions within F-strings, we can 
separate the string from the format required. (reminiscent of FORTRAN 
which had both WRITE and FORMAT statements, or for that matter HTML 
which states the 'what' and CSS the 'how')

Given that the int() instance-creation has a higher likelihood of 
data-error, it is recommended that it be a separate operation for ease 
of fault-finding - indeed some will want to wrap it with try...except.

 >>> s = "123456789" # arrives as str
 >>> s_int = int( s )  # makes the transformation obvious and distinct

 >>> s_format = ">20,"  # define how the value should be presented

 >>> F"{s_int:{s_format}}"
'         123,456,789'


Further, some of us don't like 'magic-constants', hence (previously):

 >>> S_FIELD_WIDTH = 20
 >>> s_format = F">{S_FIELD_WIDTH},"


and if we really want to go over-board:

 >>> RIGHT_JUSTIFIED = ">"
 >>> THOUSANDS_SEPARATOR = ","
 >>> s_format = F"{RIGHT_JUSTIFIED}{S_FIELD_WIDTH}{THOUSANDS_SEPARATOR}"

or (better) because right-justification is the default for numbers:

 >>> s_format = F"{S_FIELD_WIDTH}{THOUSANDS_SEPARATOR}"


To the extreme that if your user keeps fiddling with presentations (none 
ever do, do they?), all settings to do with s_format could be added to a 
config/environment file, and thus be even further separated from 
program-logic!

-- 
Regards,
=dn