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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: What the Constitution, Supreme Court say about 'due
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Date: 7 Jun 2025 13:11:49 GMT
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Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 12:37:37 -0400, Catrike Ryder
> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 13:20:03 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 11:23:46 -0400, Catrike Ryder
>>> <Soloman@old.bikers.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 12:11:02 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, 6 Jun 2025 07:55:01 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Meanwhile, with about 400,000,000 firearms, we suffer about 
>>>>>> 41,000 firearm deaths all together (including suicide and 
>>>>>> negligent discharge).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/2024/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> compare other deaths in that link. All firearms deaths are 
>>>>>> greater than car crashes but less than falls.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Incredible. Firearms lead all causes of death, except for
>>>>> natural causes and "poison/suicide/homicide". I find it strange that
>>>>> "homicides and suicides" don't mention if guns were used,
>>>>> Falls can be caused by any number of natural causes(but
>>>>> usually isquemic brain/heart problems). I doubt many people were
>>>>> deliberately pushed, so that goes under natural causes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seems the US has a very serious gun problem. And a poison
>>>>> problem. Is that why people ask you "What's your poison?".
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS The only way to decrease "natural causes" is by offering
>>>>> free public medical care. And I don't think that's going to happen
>>>>> with the current administration. Why the US has such terrible
>>>>> statistics, in some cases worse than poor countries like Cuba.
>>>>> []'s
>>>> 
>>>> No such thing as free -------
>>> 
>>> There is "pay your taxes" as opposed to "hide everything in
>>> the Caymans, fsck fellow citizens". Most of the EU and Canada chose
>>> the first option. Their life expectancy puts the US to shame,
>>> []'s
>> 
>> So far at least, they don't have the drug problems, the violent gangs,
>> or the problems with single parent housholds.
> 
> 	They probably do, but not to the extent the US does. Places
> that have a really serious drug problem are so rare they tend to
> become anecdotes. "Don't go to Amsterdam, too many heroin addicts
> there!"

Have to say one of my young colleague went there recently on holiday she
chatted about lots of things on her return, drug use wasn’t one of them!

I did warn her that do need to be more productive as pedestrian for bikes
as so many! Particularly in comparison to the area of london my work/she
lives in.

I’m sure it exists and I believe it’s very touristy now, I’ve not been this
century I think?

> 	 A state health system does not cover violent gangs and single
> parenthood(it might solve the latter to a very large extent if they
> offer free abortions).
> 	You need a good tax-funded police to solve the problem of
> gangs. I heard that in the US the police get  4 months training. In
> most of Europe it's more than 2 years before they are allowed to
> intermingle with the public without a supervisor In Iceland 3 years
> minimum?.
> 	[]'s

Indeed the belief that the US is exceptional and a unique case is just a
cultural construct.

Roger Merriman