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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: What Window Manager/Desktop Environment do you use, and why? Date: 11 Jun 2025 17:11:30 GMT Lines: 34 Message-ID: <matrm2F7cmrU1@mid.individual.net> References: <slrn1042rd9.14sa.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <F1SdncBow6jR9t_1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> <101tsvg$en0o$1@paganini.bofh.team> <slrn1045krt.21o1.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <6843417c$0$8575$426a34cc@news.free.fr> <slrn10478lo.8p2.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <20250609093835.0000784c@gmail.com> <1027nss$ptre$6@dont-email.me> <slrn104g20d.l1t.rotflol2@geidiprime.bvh> <1029fb5$19mj3$3@dont-email.me> <1029h19$pc00$1@news1.tnib.de> <1029jru$1b18g$1@dont-email.me> <102bdp6$1ruur$6@dont-email.me> <102c7qb$227fk$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net c5+Dhv7PhH9+kICjrA0n+AMsCjVt/T+WT6FGzzl4UFFIiJsEDj Cancel-Lock: sha1:meibj5yaXjRS+tacSb76BWwhdSU= sha256:IHNfC0T3i8P4aJELeYxLmlpE3BcsBsDT5OpRtLmEwSY= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) On Wed, 11 Jun 2025 18:36:43 +0300, Tauno Voipio wrote: > On 11.6.2025 11.12, The Natural Philosopher wrote: >> On 10/06/2025 16:43, Robert Heller wrote: >> >> >>> (I think some sports cars and some heavy trucks, still have manual >>> transmissions.) >>> >> Golly. Another example of USian utter ignorance >> >> Manual sales still account for 30% of all cars in Europe. >> >> > There are manual gearboxes of many kinds. For an US version, google for > 'Kenworth gear shift pattern'. Like bicycles with 21 speeds a lot of those never were used unless you were pulling stumps. By the '90s most over the road trucks were 9-speed. I drove a Volvo White that had an Eaton overdrive transmission with a different pattern. 1 2 3 4 I never got entirely used to it and would blow shifts if I was tired or preoccupied. I've driven a lot of variations on the H pattern including 3- on-the-tree but that was different. There was a lever on the gearshift so the high range was the same pattern. There was another L position that was seldom used.