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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!panix!.POSTED.panix6.panix.com!nan.users.panix.com!robomod!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=C3=89LIE?= <iulius@nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid> Newsgroups: news.groups.proposals,news.groups Subject: Re: MODERATOR (NOT MODERATORS?) FOUND for rec.photo.moderated, comp.std.announce, comp.newprod, and comp.simulation Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2025 10:29:56 EDT Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Approved: NGP Approval Key <ngp-approval-key@ngp.big-8.org> Message-ID: <mb7e0iFps1nU1@mid.individual.net> References: <MPG.42b54d916dd18e09896f4@news.eternal-september.org> <MPG.42b54e792ebe45e59896f5@news.eternal-september.org> <MPG.42b54ff3bf9863519896f7@news.eternal-september.org> <MPG.42b54f6af1452af69896f6@news.eternal-september.org> <102ifv6$14a$1@reader1.panix.com> <MPG.42b7986f32aa02779896f8@news.eternal-september.org> <684e1bb7@news.ausics.net> <20250615091838.13330417@ryz.dorfdsl.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="panix6.panix.com:166.84.1.6"; logging-data="2117"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:0C0FsGfOhk3TsgqNt3NNaSDUTTY= sha256:ow0FtlzDa+zkUCVUJz2JQGYVH6pYHKsRiBoR4lDCfgs= X-NGP-Policy: http://www.big-8.org/~ngp X-NGP-Info-1: Send submissions to ngp@nan.users.panix.com X-NGP-Info-2: Send technical/policy queries to ngp-admin@nan.users.panix.com X-Comment: Moderators do not necessarily agree or disagree with this article. X-Robomod: STUMP <https://savannah.gnu.org/projects/stump> X-Spam-Relay-Country: DE DE DE DE DE X-Spam-DCC: : mailcrunch3.panix.com 1102; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 rep=96% Authentication-Results: mail1.panix.com; dkim=pass (Good 2048 bit rsa-sha256 signature) header.d=uni-berlin.de header.a=rsa-sha256 Authentication-Results: mail1.panix.com; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=nom-de-mon-site.com.invalid Authentication-Results: mail1.panix.com; spf=fail smtp.mailfrom=uni-berlin.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=uni-berlin.de; s=fub01; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:Sender: Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=IeVmEIWkiKa7sImBt2J/PXZFij3vCZP4Cw0D+3rmJec=; t=1749975573; x=1750580373; b=NJPG07eCcm8cW3lUpiIyr/2ZR3vY0o0pvqMDkNwo7WGS8K/DUuu4uGVRs/K7da5IdUkoPc7/Ly6 DA03eGLBTRHXcRvmYLNJke8wSdm6bCEqZ54P+l1OpPF66Q1QvuLuPJRd57T+BaoxWgXbe0ZY5BAfK FJf3thtPR0YjEYiad6Gvj+BBlMNv91u+5o23bjgJsP/dSuOrAECnGymx5t5DSC3wc5Iw2H/fWCCct b4mQpIfjmzXosW9PF7Tq7QGad83wkkyBTq475VHCYnylNcuxmnA+2QD8ueiozytuGrXedlI06hOss muL2g6rsZK1ydB5WjucrMX8c03EmiNqH6k0g==; X-Orig-X-Trace: individual.net MsB0tNBFkuXHZsAwvVpMMAfzabhYd1ai2n528ItdMpTLp6wvI= X-ZEDAT-Hint: RO X-Auth: PGPMoose V2.0 PGP news.groups.proposals iEYEARECAAYFAmhO2OUACgkQrPkQbuk9hduBZgCeMdyFr4eMVajkSnbwZ3gg2YsB 9AkAn1POsGRoppUOGxcaZGsCcpJzXV3B =41kc Hi Marco, >> The only issue, and I'm not sure if it's an issue, might be the >> NNTP servers willing to accept postings from these distributed >> neo-Robomod instances. I got the impression from past discussion >> that some (most?) NNTP servers don't accept moderators posting >> approved articles through them, or require personal requests to >> allow it. > > This is needed to keep the concept of moderated groups. Otherwise > anybody could post messages with an Approved: header. Indeed. Also, one should also take into consideration anti-spam/abuse mitigation. Ideally, setting up pgpmoose or like. https://wiki.killfile.org/projects/usenet/pgpmoose/ Tim mentions that he can watch newsgroups and send the related NoCeM messages to cancel unwanted articles posted with an Approved header field in moderated newsgroups, but I don't know how many such newsgroups are watched and whether his robot still work. I think this is a useful service to have in Usenet moderation. And I agree there should be more than one watching robot. Adding new NoCeM keys can take ages as they need being manually added by news administrators, so the best is to have current NoCeM senders doing that :) -- Julien ÉLIE « You know what I did before I married? Anything I wanted to. »