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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: VMS Date: 18 Jun 2025 23:09:53 GMT Lines: 46 Message-ID: <mbgva1FdjtnU2@mid.individual.net> References: <wCqdnYde9MIbmND1nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@giganews.com> <102ka4k$9umt$2@dont-email.me> <87tt4i9nw5.fsf@eder.anydns.info> <102l0h9$fjtb$5@dont-email.me> <Z2udned3u9ZgqtP1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <slrn1054j9c.3ce8.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <PpudnVnCnvuYxc_1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> <slrn10562v8.1mrg1.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> <102v77p$3at0f$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net ZzPyZMINJ8WUuNcAsGlABA9UXT1P0Mo3hEHFr0pIMQ2RUj3agk Cancel-Lock: sha1:/Sqb/sKtSLSHkCXVvjAKcFmIteo= sha256:LuiE3Ll/L+RxpK6/CNDgUhibmkALbfFLvj0p8jRYF/M= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 20:23:21 -0000 (UTC), Rich wrote: > candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> > wrote: >> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 06:09 this Wednesday (GMT): >>> On 6/18/25 1:30 AM, candycanearter07 wrote: >>>> c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote at 03:03 this Sunday (GMT): >>>>> On 6/14/25 7:27 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 14 Jun 2025 20:30:34 +0200, Andreas Eder wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You meaybe thinking of Redox OS https://www.redox-os.org/ >>>>>> >>>>>> That name is obviously meant to be a kind of word play on “Rust”. >>>>>> As I recall from my high-school chemistry lessons, a “redox >>>>>> reaction” is one where one reactant is “reduced” (gains electrons) >>>>>> while the other is “oxidized” (loses them). This may or may not >>>>>> involve actual oxygen atoms (which are notorious eaters of >>>>>> electrons), but the concept has been generalized from that. >>>>>> >>>>>> The slight irony is that the name “Rust” does not come from the >>>>>> well-known redox reaction that iron undergoes with water in the >>>>>> presence of oxygen (catalyzed by a little bit of polar contaminants >>>>>> such as common salt), but from the name of a kind of fungus. >>>>> >>>>> "Fungus" ??? TOO CRUEL ! >>>>> >>>>> Rust is perfectly OK ... but I don't see much advantage over >>>>> plain 'C'. Lots of 'new langs' are like that, just 'C' with >>>>> nastier syntax. >>>> >>>> >>>> Rust I personally dislike the syntax of, AND its development team is >>>> apparently pretty controversial. >>> >>> >>> IMHO, stick to 'C' ... but use GOOD PRACTICES. >> >> Makes sense to me. > > Yes, assuming a perfectly infallable programmer, C can be "memory safe" > as well. I don't know rust at all but I wonder if it's like Stroustrup's comment on C++ -- it's harder to shoot yourself in the foot but when you do you blow your whole leg off.