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From: jillery <69jpil69@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Top three reasons for optimism about the ID scam
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On Wed, 01 Jan 2025 19:30:03 +0000, Martin Harran
<martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:27:08 -0600, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On 12/30/2024 4:07 AM, jillery wrote:
>>> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 16:30:50 +0000, Martin Harran
>>> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>=20
>>>> On Sun, 29 Dec 2024 09:38:20 -0600, RonO <rokimoto557@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/29/2024 2:59 AM, jillery wrote:
>>>>>> On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 13:33:45 +0000, Martin Harran
>>>>>> <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not going to repost all the crap you keep reposting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a refreshing change of pace, follow your own advice and KF =
"you".
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not interact with Harran very much, but how long has he been =
likely
>>>>> insane?  You seem to have more experience with him.  How insane do =
you
>>>>> have to be to simply lie about something insane that you have been =
doing
>>>>> throughout the thread?  How insane do you have to be in order to =
think
>>>>> that removing the evidence means that it doesn't matter?  I know =
that
>>>>> snipping and running is a common dishonest ploy that posters like =
Nyikos
>>>>> would routinely indulge in, but Harran doesn't seem to be mentally =
aware
>>>>> of what he is doing.
>>>>
>>>> The best example I see of insanity here is somebody with scientific
>>>> expertise who dismisses the documented conclusions of qualified
>>>> researchers in favour of some guy trying to make a case for
>>>> geocentrism.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Once again, follow your own advice...
>>>=20
>>
>>Projection is something I do not understand. =20
>
>But something that you are particularly good at.=20


The mind boggles at how willfully you avoid following your own advice.


>Trying to lable your
>opponents as insane is just about the worst possible argument you
>could use and shows more about your own lack of reasoning than your
>opponent's.
>
>>Nyikos would do it=20
>>routinely.  If he was doing something stupid and dishonest someone else=
=20
>>had to be guilty of doing it.  What I do not get is that the person=20
>>doing it obviously understands what they are doing well enough to =
accuse=20
>>someone else of doing it instead of themselves.  Here Harran is the one=
=20
>>that can't deal with the evidence even when it comes from his own=20
>>trusted source, and his means of dealing with it is to remove it and =
run=20
>>in denial.  I have been the one putting up the evidence, and he has =
been=20
>>the one that can't deal with the conclusions of the people that have=20
>>written up their evaluation of the incidents.
>>
>>Ron Okimoto

--=20
To know less than we don't know is the nature of most knowledge