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From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: How are criminals arrested
Date: 23 Jun 2025 16:13:25 GMT
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John B. <jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 07:55:20 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 6/23/2025 4:51 AM, John B. wrote:
>>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 21:13:33 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 15:46:45 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6/22/2025 12:00 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>>> My fucking water bill last month was $100 and that was almost
>>>>>> entirely from flushing toilets. That, just 15 years ago wouls have been $10.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mine arrived yesterday. $26.10 for the month. You need to move out of
>>>>> that hellhole before your water bills break you!
>>>> 
>>>> My last water bill was $80.50.  I live about 60 miles south of Tom. We
>>>> have different water companies.  My water bill has been creeping
>>>> upwards since the last few droughts:
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droughts_in_California#Dry_years>
>>>> My water bill went up even faster after the CZU fire destroyed a large
>>>> part of the water distribution and storage system Aug-Sept 2020:
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZU_Lightning_Complex_fires>
>>>> Also, only $9.50 of the $80.50 is for water.  The rest if for service.
>>>> In other words, if the water district delivered no water, my bill
>>>> would still be $71 per month.
>>>> 
>>>> I suspect that Tom's water bill follows the same pattern, where
>>>> reducing his water use will have almost no effect on his $100 monthly
>>>> bill.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dig a well....
>>> --
>>> cheers,
>>> 
>>> John B.
>>> 
>> 
>> Sounds simple. It's not.  In WI you need a drill permit 
>> first, can't do it yourself, as it requires a licensed well 
>> driller and then there's county water testing, forever.
>> 
>> As with your 'water' bill, the larger expense is on the 
>> other (sewage) side. In rural areas, that's septic tank 
>> clearance and testing (leach fields no longer permitted).
>> 
>> https://odorfreeseptic.com/septic-system-regulations/wisconsin-septic-system-regulations/
> 
> 
> I can only sympathies with you people back there .... all those
> helpful agencies.
> 
> Growing up in mid New Hampshire we lived in two houses with wells and
> septic tanks. Never a problem. 
> 
> I suppose that the difference was that we knew what we were doing and
> the U.S. wasn't, in those days intent on controlling every act the
> citizens make.
> --
> cheers,
> 
> John B.
> 
> 

You do rather want to know what’s underground and where pipes etc go.

The local industrial towns (in wales where I’m from) have the occasional
mine shaft open and so on, and can see that some streets have dips in them
as they have settled as the mining wasn’t regulated or recorded.

Plus stuff like my folks water supply comes 20 miles away from some higher
hills, the last few miles, had a leak for last few years, so the water
company has been doing exploratory digging to try to find the pipe as no
records, they did find it after a few years…

Roger Merriman