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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy Subject: Re: Now Hear This. This Group Is Linux Advocacy. Date: 24 Jun 2025 19:04:47 GMT Lines: 47 Message-ID: <mc0b6eF2b0gU1@mid.individual.net> References: <pan$658e7$817287a7$4b910a0c$ff9c693d@gnu.rocks> <103c9f3$1eno7$2@dont-email.me> <mbtpu4Fk39bU1@mid.individual.net> <dhfj5ktsq1jrrji3e5rmag3bjr50mp9jju@4ax.com> <mbu2efFk39bU2@mid.individual.net> <rt1l5k1l9811avd63sd6tig8k4gldb29t6@4ax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net RYh217sWXTtf5QmkzVXUVwToS6h9jITcbyQw7Sf272FHNVGXpY Cancel-Lock: sha1:03QjigKzySLeC9zGXxqMN0XKzZk= sha256:Qvnl8Tiym+VmvIriCC8C6ER/1EP999B2zGDRWub3rcw= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 06:12:38 -0500, chrisv wrote: > rbowman wrote: > >> chrisv wrote: >>> >>> rbowman wrote: >>>> >>>>https://caterhamcars.com/en/models/assembly >>> >>> I'm amazed that those are still legal in the UK. They never have been >>> in the US, AFAIK. What a fun toy, if one had the space for it. >> >>I doubt you could import a completed one but if you build it yourself I >>think you could license it in this state. You might have to call it an >>ATV. Quads and side-by-sides are street legal. > > ?? How could any such machines pass the crash tests, much less all > sorts of other regulations? https://www.dirtlegal.com/street-legal-utv-guide/montana#program We don't need no stinkin' regulations. They are 4 wheeled motorcycles and there are no motorcycle crash tests. There is a short list of things you need mostly lights and a horn. I think it was about 25 years ago when Montana went to one and done for motorcycles. You register it, get permanent plates, and that's it. The first year it went in effect when I went in to register my bikes the DMV lady said 'Well, this is the last time you'll have to register your toys!" That covered trailers, RV (non-powered) and so forth. It cuts both ways. My DR650 is registered for highway use but if I wanted to ride it off highway I'd need a OHV permit, which I think is $50 for 2 years. I never bothered since 'off highway' is flexible. My skills and the DR being pretty heavy means I'm not going too far on single track trails. Since they don't have to see the vehicle in question just call the Seven a quadricycle and you're good. This isn't California :) In fact my DR650 isn't legal in CA. I don't know if Suzuki ever added the vapor recovery plumbing CA requires to all the newer bikes but when I bought mine it definitely was a 49 state model. I've ridden the Harley in CA and I doubt that is completely legal either but who is going to check?