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On Mon, 20 May 2024 09:34:26 -0400, FPP <fredp1571@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/19/24 4:52 PM, BTR1701 wrote:
>> It's called the Homeownership Down Payment Program and it provides a
>> $25,000 forgivable loan only to buyers who are black, indigenous or people
>> of color who are buying a permanently affordable home through the Champlain
>> Housing Trust or its partner agencies across the state.
>> 
>> https://www.wcax.com/2024/04/15/program-help-bipoc-vermonters-become-homeowners-expanding/?outputType=amp
>> 
>> ----------------------
>> There are plenty of low income white people who could use a leg up to help
>> buy a home but they're shit out of luck in Vermont, where they'll be told
>> they have the wrong skin color to access that benefit.
>> 
>> I wonder how they'll treat someone who is half-white and half-black? Maybe
>> it goes by looks. If you look black enough, like Obama, you get the loan.
>> If your white parent's genes came through, then no loan for you.
>> 
>> Of course there's no way this is legal under federal civil rights law and
>> the 14th Amendment, but if you're a 'progressive' such things don't concern
>> you.
>> 
>> If you find yourself wondering whether one of these race-based prog ideas
>> would be constitutional or not, just ask yourself if the races were
>> reversed-- a program for home loans that's only available for white
>> people-- and if your first reaction is, of course that wouldn't be legal,
>> then you have your answer. The legalities don't change when the races are
>> swapped.
>> 
>> It's not even a close call, legally. The proponents of this kind of thing
>> also often openly admit it's discrimination, helpfully providing all the
>> evidence against them that you'd need in court. Sure it's racial
>> discrimination, they say, but you deserve it. That's what you get for being
>> white when there was slavery centuries ago that you had nothing to do with.
>> 
>> But that doesn't hold up in court. Even moviePig's 14 1/2 Amendment doesn't
>> say, "Racial discrimination is not allowed unless they have it coming."
>> 
>> What needs to happen is that the victims of discrimination in programs like
>> these-- the white people-- need to start suing. A few have, here and there
>> around the country, and when they do, they easily win. But the lawsuits
>> need to be more widespread and instantaneous whenever this racial nastiness
>> rears its ugly head. Shut it down immediately.
>> 
>
>
>Poor Whyte people... they never catch a break.  Sad!

And FPP appears to be in favor of race discrimination.