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From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com>
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Subject: Re: Falling Windows Market Share
Date: 25 Jun 2025 23:20:18 GMT
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 16:53:37 -0400, Paul wrote:

> The customers on the other hand, are so price sensitive, it's
> ridiculous. This is why I'm seeing questions now about NUC-like boxes.
> Intel made NUC boxes for a while, the interest was limited to "rich
> people". Intel would not drop the price. Intel has exited the NUC
> market, Asus got the formfactor from them. But now, the pricing is
> competitive,
> and the price of these things will drop into the sewer, and so will the
> performance. And Intel gets to sell some of its two-core processors (in
> the year 2025) -- a huge money maker, I'm sure.
> The BGA (ball grid array soldered-down processor) chips on the Intel
> site,
> don't normally list prices.

I became interested in the formfactor when the company bought a Mac Mini 
to compile code for an iPhone app. I was not impressed by the Intel NUCs 
and bought a Beelink SER4.

https://www.cnx-software.com/2022/04/04/beelink-ser4-review-windows-11-
ubuntu-20-04-and-overclocking-amd-ryzen-7-4800u-soc/

It came with Windows 11 but that didn't last long. I saw no reason for a 
dual boot and installed Linux over it. It's been my daily driver since 
September 2022 with no problems from the hardware. iirc it was around 
$350. The SER5 with the Ryzen 7 68000U is now $320 on Amazon. Since then 
they've expanded both up and down scale. I think the current bargain 
basement model is the S13 with an Intel N150 for $170. That's lower than 
the Asus N150 barebone offering.  Asus seems to be pushing barebones 
offerings instead of something that works out of the box. I don't know if 
that's a legacy from the Intel days.