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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: rbowman <bowman@montana.com> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-10 Subject: Re: Before Dimdows 10 Goes EOL, I'm Testing Linux To Save My Laptop From The Landfill Date: 26 Jun 2025 18:43:46 GMT Lines: 44 Message-ID: <mc5in2Fub69U1@mid.individual.net> References: <103i58h$3340l$1@dont-email.me> <103i9mo$3045t$1@dont-email.me> <mc418oFl3e0U1@mid.individual.net> <103ijtu$3045t$3@dont-email.me> <mc493aFmbppU1@mid.individual.net> <103jvsh$3ir2e$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net VUM/DQKwHcQrlyJVGouu8wmcHvDuiMtI6qSyS79vsLVCcwaZ1T Cancel-Lock: sha1:604iBzzx99q6EzsUAh0xXiI5eoo= sha256:Si20Wwg/XKPnR4EedN1r6id4MXMzN94X8EHDtWYbfjY= User-Agent: Pan/0.160 (Toresk; ) On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 10:26:41 -0700, T wrote: > Fedora s "next to bleeding edge". Fedora has an army of testers that > make sure things work before updating. > Almost nothing gets by them. Almost, bet very seldom. I forget which transition it was but Plasma, KDE, QT, and Wayland weren't playing well but it settled down in a couple of weeks. iirc one of them was lagging in its release. > The updates will calm down after a bit. 38 dnf system-upgrade download --releaseve 2025-04-02 21:39:54 6228 37 dnf remove python3-qt5-webkit 2025-04-02 20:14:56 5 36 dnf update 2025-04-02 19:42:57 70 35 dnf update 2025-04-01 22:59:57 173 34 dnf update 2025-03-28 06:48:19 146 33 dnf update 2025-03-19 02:50:29 56 32 dnf update 2025-03-16 03:18:27 2 31 dnf update 2025-03-15 05:16:11 440 30 dnf update 2025-03-13 05:34:05 438 29 dnf update 2025-03-07 04:41:33 38 28 dnf update 2025-03-06 06:31:30 28 27 dnf update 2025-03-05 04:46:58 305 26 dnf update 2025-02-26 07:24:28 48 25 dnf update 2025-02-24 03:33:13 62 Considering every thing prior to the upgrade to 42 beta was Fedora 41, it doesn't look all that calm. The python-qt5-webkit gummed up the works and had to be removed. > My list: > $ dnf history list | grep -v update | grep -v upgrade | grep -v remove Well, duh, if you grep out any update you don't see any, do you? I had removed a couple of installs like expat-devel from my first list to focus on the update history. I'm not arguing against Fedora but if you treat it like Windows patch Tuesday and only update once a month have fun.