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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Roger Merriman <roger@sarlet.com> Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech Subject: Re: How are criminals arrested Date: 28 Jun 2025 08:10:26 GMT Lines: 133 Message-ID: <mc9mbiFkvbnU1@mid.individual.net> References: <10394h0$i5je$5@dont-email.me> <MMV5Q.468383$x6q4.87535@fx46.iad> <1039mj7$nfo0$1@dont-email.me> <b6kh5khuhi09kpf6vm71hd7ahda3scqnoi@4ax.com> <tr8i5k9637c65kmdvnphrjfmsh9hib862v@4ax.com> <103birm$18lno$1@dont-email.me> <6vji5k5a1tioesrtf7edkqt2l5geh5ni6c@4ax.com> <Iqg6Q.1408667$qmJf.43255@fx16.iad> <piuj5k58dporcoukt4rhtcl3qo9mphks0m@4ax.com> <LFX6Q.933$1hr8.737@fx03.iad> <rupo5khho3ds066suosg9jm0u6ermju9pm@4ax.com> <103j96r$2n534$5@dont-email.me> <goqr5kpga7dq3sdu84ri5hcnm9nolpalfc@4ax.com> <mc7g4hF9qicU1@mid.individual.net> <103m7p4$4m3p$1@dont-email.me> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net cmaFUKv3HSCUD/fK56n+yQqSnVAx39sYWipQdjuhIQJZcnCS6s Cancel-Lock: sha1:KxTr8T93toAvHCHpbSm78BF0guU= sha1:sRoHw+FfEyZ8pgtHvFLVFQ4+Xuk= sha256:5m4ax7lqnXpbLtZG5L9yZxXPhu9DbzChDIZM8/KpVBI= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.6.1 (iPad) Zen Cycle <funkmaster@hotmail.com> wrote: > On 6/27/2025 8:12 AM, Roger Merriman wrote: >> John B. <jbslocomb@fictitious.site> wrote: >>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 06:59:38 -0400, zen cycle >>> <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 6/25/2025 5:33 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote: >>>>> On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 18:58:51 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Mon Jun 23 18:15:42 2025 John B. wrote: >>>>>>> On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 17:47:20 GMT, cyclintom <cyclintom@yahoo.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon Jun 23 06:10:04 2025 John B. wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I can only sympathies with you people back there .... all those >>>>>>>>> helpful agencies. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Growing up in mid New Hampshire we lived in two houses with wells and >>>>>>>>> septic tanks. Never a problem. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I suppose that the difference was that we knew what we were doing and >>>>>>>>> the U.S. wasn't, in those days intent on controlling every act the >>>>>>>>> citizens make. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> John, I expect you simply never knew the problems because of your >>>>>>>> young age. Septic systems in particulsr ned constant maintenance. >>>>>>>> Even outhouses have to be relocated far away from others when they >>>>>>>> fill enough to be covered over with dirt to cap them off. Water >>>>>>>> treatment plants are not terribly complicated but what do you do >>>>>>>> with the brown water? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No Tom I do/did know what I was doing. >>>>>>> Anyone with the brain p0wer of a cockroach is aware that you always >>>>>>> build your water source up hill from your septic system which requires >>>>>>> very limited service (obvious you don't how a septic tank works). >>>>> >>>>>> New Hamposhire is mostly flat. what is it you were saying about brains of a cockroach? >>>> >>>> oh dear gawd...did he really write that? >>>> >>>> lol...wow, that isn't is cock-roach brain, that's complete lack of >>>> cognitive function. >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Mountains_(New_England) >>>> >>>> "The White Mountains are a mountain range covering about a quarter of >>>> the state of New Hampshire and a small portion of western Maine in the >>>> United States. " >>>> >>>> "In all, there are 48 peaks within New Hampshire as well as one (Old >>>> Speck Mountain) in Maine over 4,000 feet (1,200 m), known as the >>>> four-thousand footers." >>>> >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presidential_Range >>>> >>>> "The Presidential Range is a mountain range located in the White >>>> Mountains of the U.S. state of New Hampshire. It contains the highest >>>> peaks of the Whites, " >>>> >>>> "Because of the poor weather conditions, the Presidential Range is often >>>> used for mountaineering training for those who go on to climb some of >>>> the world's highest mountains, including K2 and Everest." >>>> >>>>> >>>>> What percentage of the area of New Hampshire do you consider to be >>>>> "mostly flat"? >>>>> >>>>> Notice the mountains and hills? >>>>> <https://www.visitwhitemountains.com/things-to-do/outdoors/mount-washington/> >>>>> I could provide a link to a topo map for you, but then I would need to >>>>> show you how to read the map. It's your claim and you get to prove >>>>> it. >>>>> >>>>> Looking at various relief maps of NH, I can's find any part of NH that >>>>> is flat: >>>>> <https://www.google.com/search?num=10&q=3d%20relief%20map%20of%20new%20hampshire&udm=2> >>>> >>>> To be fair, parts of the seacost are quite flat. The Granite State >>>> Wheelmen host an annual century ride, which while claiming over 3000' >>>> feet of total climbing, doesn't have any any individual climb over 100'. >>>> >>>> https://ridewithgps.com/events/346958-granite-state-wheelers-2025-seacoast-cen?lang=en >>>> >>>>> >>>>> This isn't quite what you claimed, but still interesting: >>>>> >>>>> "How much bigger would N.H. be if you flattened out the mountains?" >>>>> <https://www.nhpr.org/environment/2021-10-01/how-much-bigger-would-nh-be-if-you-flattened-out-the-mountains> >>>>> "According to his calculations, New Hampshire is 133 square miles >>>>> bigger when you iron out the wrinkles, which is just about 1.5 percent >>>>> bigger." >>>>> >>>>> I'm taking a break from stacking firewood. Everything aches. >>>>> >>> And don't forget MT. Washington where you are allowed to ride UP the >>> mountain but due to the steepness of the road not DOWN. >>> -- >>> cheers, >>> >>> John B. >>> >>> >> The road is for tourist by looks of things and this being the US cars 1st >> hence the Auto road name, it’s not the gradients but that they are priories >> are for cars who pay for the privilege to use the private road, I believe >> there are gravel roads that one could ride down. > > Nope, there's only the one "road". All other paths up/down are hiking > trails, not navigable by bicycle - well, maybe if you don't mind walking > down 40% grades carrying the bike over boulders. > > If you go to Strava and look at the heat maps around mt washington, > you'll see _no_ cycling activity other than the auto road. > >> >> Bikes are only allowed once a year or so for the hill climb, and even then >> have to car back down. >> >> Roger Merriman >> > > Ah I stand corrected! Roger Merriman