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On 7/16/24 5:18 AM, D wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 15 Jul 2024, 26yh.0712 wrote:
> 
>> On 7/15/24 1:19 AM, rbowman wrote:
>>> On Sun, 14 Jul 2024 16:30:25 -0700, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>
>>>>     I too resist Google, the great big advertising
>>>> agency and always search with DDG.  It is a choice on Firefox. 
>>>> SeaMonkey
>>>> and Mercury browsers.
>>>
>>> I use Brave and generally go with the Brave search.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_Search
>>>
>>> I do use DDG if I have Firefox open but have noticed DDG tends to be a
>>> wrapper on Bing.
>>>
>>> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13451223/Microsoft-outage- 
>>>
>>> Bing-DuckDuckGo-ChatGPT-thousands-users.html
>>>
>>> DDG does have other sources it indexes.
>>
>>
>>  While it would be great to completely avoid
>>  Goog and M$, this just isn't practical. Those
>>  engines are now so HUGE and quick that even
>>  DDG is going to use them by proxy. The only
>>  good bit is that DDG disguises YOUR identity
>>  so Goog cannot easily monitor/target your stuff.
>>
>>  Future worry - Goog and M$ don't necessarily HAVE
>>  to let DDG and related use them for searches. One
>>  greedy itch and it's Goog or NOTHING worth a damn.
>>  It is very difficult to create even a tiny spot
>>  in the world where money doesn't rule - Ok, maybe
>>  China, but there the STATE rules and spies on your
>>  every keystroke with bad intent ........
>>
>>  Aww ... I see AltaVista now takes you to Yahoo  :-(
>>
> 
> I think there would be some kind of antitrust procedure if one or two of 
> them started to cut off third party search engines.


   Maybe ... but with the $$$ Goog and M$ can bring
   to it ... well ...... might be a hopeless, or at
   least eternal, battle.


> Perhaps, in the end, we'll revert to the classic, eternal beauty of 
> dmoz.org? It no longer works but it was one of those directories curated 
> by humans.

   Too small for modern needs. The present/future of "search"
   is a MASSIVE database with a MASSIVE distributed server farm
   and a LOT of "AI" being used. No 99-cent op can even remotely
   compete. Sorry.

   Hey, you can revive the print "Yellow Pages" ....

   This is one of the evolving, inevitable, PROBLEMS
   of the "digital age".