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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: minforth <minforth@gmx.net> Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Parsing timestamps? Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2025 07:34:16 +0200 Lines: 31 Message-ID: <mcjumpFca1rU1@mid.individual.net> References: <1f433fabcb4d053d16cbc098dedc6c370608ac01@i2pn2.org> <4a4c38c99d22d97314ed5750af38430d@www.novabbs.com> <765bd244e1368b5691f18c748102470e8de1a30d@i2pn2.org> <nnd$0deda869$2559e613@c251414cde7edbe7> <103ilab$225q0$1@paganini.bofh.team> <cda70ea80eb98069a3060f95503d0853@www.novabbs.com> <2025Jun29.171314@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <96f3b6d94af924cf1468a2cced37966d@www.novabbs.com> <d5ff6c298dff84dabc278ac1a28087d55126645e@i2pn2.org> <0cd5e9d5959101c1efa68a2d6d630e23@www.novabbs.com> <069f09501a3c6fcade18fdf83925d835514b42cc@i2pn2.org> <44b5f13fd49d8ddbd572ae583379d124@www.novabbs.com> <21113c70c36a86f0fd4c74c8d11d0947528ba70f@i2pn2.org> <20baae7dd561db60967a5937d2b59d9a@www.novabbs.com> <0db20ddf954106bbca40d9e83630033f108b9a8e@i2pn2.org> <87bjq5yn8i.fsf@nightsong.com> <nnd$6da712e9$10ba1712@89d620b4a5dddb34> <8734bfzrdl.fsf@nightsong.com> <6dcd99ffba129d06b1f736994363eb87@www.novabbs.com> <87y0t7y9bh.fsf@nightsong.com> <mcjlm5FaoveU1@mid.individual.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net NbpXd6HIvFtZQ+V0jyl2owt8eg8TH8fOU0W8bTIe4ELtpKhyi0 Cancel-Lock: sha1:HAh2jP8Jw7TKS+KmuHUi2l8tzdQ= sha256:wdQWh9ZsfZV9IxueXZGhrbaHXETzqiejX8c95tbsOwo= User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <mcjlm5FaoveU1@mid.individual.net> Am 02.07.2025 um 05:00 schrieb minforth: > Am 01.07.2025 um 21:56 schrieb Paul Rubin: >> minforth@gmx.net (minforth) writes: >>> Nobody seems to care about that time. Instead, the focus seems to be >>> primarily on code runtime, even though the difference is only >>> microseconds or less. >> >> I think in the Moore era, you got two speedups: 1) interpreted Forth was >> 10x faster than its main competitor, interpreted BASIC; and 2) if your >> Forth program was still too slow, you'd identify a few hot spots and >> rewrite those in assembler. >> >> Today instead of BASIC we have Python, and interpreted Forth is still a >> lot faster than Python. That speed is sufficient for most things, like >> it always was, but even more so on modern hardware. > > Today, you could go insane if you had to write assembler code > with SSE1/2/3/4/AVX/AES etc. extended CPU commands (or take GPU > programming...) > > Even chip manufacturers provide C libraries with built-ins and > intrinsics to handle this complexity, and optimising C compilers > for selecting the best operations. > > IMO assembler programming in Forth is mostly for retro enthusiasts > P.S. I forgot to mention that this is not true for MCUs and embedded systems. I have the utmost respect for Matthias Koch's Mecrisp Stellaris.